BBC fights against openness again

The BBC believes that you should only use its online services through the proprietary software of one of its preferred technology companies. As a result of this, you can no longer use iplayer-dl/iPlayer Downloader.

The BBC has recently changed the iPhone iPlayer to use an HTTPS connection for part of the process. This requires the client to offer an Apple-signed client certificate as part of the connection. This has always been the case for the iPad version, but the iPhone change is new.

This means that a client device that does not have an Apple certificate can no longer connect to the BBC servers. This includes my downloader.

I have a few options:

  1. Extract the client key from an iPhone or iPod Touch.
  2. Rewrite the downloader to use RTMPE instead of HTTP.
  3. Give up.

If anyone can explain how to extract the client certificate from an iOS device, I’ll be very grateful.

I shan’t be making any upgrades in the immediate future. In the meantime, however, if you’re looking for an alternative, you could look at get_iplayer.

The reason the BBC gives for restricting access to non-blessed clients is piracy concerns. I would therefore like to appeal to irony by suggesting that both BitTorrent and Usenet are excellent ways to get hold of BBC TV programmes. I encourage you to check them out.

Please don’t use the comments as a support forum for get_iplayer! There’s a mailing list for that.


  1. Paul Winterburn

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 16:40 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows XP:

    Please don’t give up! I’ve used your application daily for years to store podcasts on my mp3 player to listen to when convenient.

    These latest changes are a pain in the arse, and shame on the BBC for restricting access in this way.
  2. Mike Dufour

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 17:00 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    If you just download BBC radio then Radio Downloader is a very good alternative to iPDL. But for BBC TV programmes get_iplayer is a little clumsy to use but better than nothing. If Paul decides to give up on iPDL then I for one really couldn’t blame him but there are always alternatives and I think we should all thank him for giving up his own time to provide us with a brilliantly simple program. Thanks Paul, regards Mike and Jo.
  3. Mike Dufour

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 17:07 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    P.S. did anyone else notice that YouTube Downloader stopped working the same day? It’s been updated since but it makes ya think . . . ?
  4. JohnBoy

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 17:24 UTC using Firefox 3.6.12 on Windows Vista:

    Don’t give up Paul

    I’am sure someone will help you out with your request.

  5. Brian

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 17:36 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Thanks for the ipdl Paul and for all the time that you’ve put into it. I hope that you’ll be able to find a way (and the time) to make it work again. It’s a great little tool.


  6. JohnBoy

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 17:36 UTC using Firefox 3.6.12 on Windows Vista:

    This worked for me…..

    get_iplayer—type=radio “john lennon”

    get_iplayer—get 11385
  7. Joy Young

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 17:37 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows XP:

    I only recently discovered ipdl.exe and I loved it as it allowed me to watch programs when and where I liked. Programs that I would otherwise not have had chance to view.

    I am very disappointed they have now stopped it working (there are going to be many other disappointed users too).
    However I would like like to say thank you for the use that I did get out of it.
  8. sanstache

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 18:16 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Paul I hope this does not spell the end for ipdl. It’s obviously totally unreasonable for us to expect you to keep applying your considerable technical expertise to keep this excellent tool going but of course that is what many thousands of us would like you to do. Whichever way it goes many thanks for the years of usage so far.
  9. Special-K

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 18:27 UTC using Firefox 3.0.19 on Windows XP:

    I hope you don’t lose interest in developing ipdl and that someone is able to provide you with the information to progress with this temporary setback. From the comments posted by others on your website it is obviously a very useful tool. Please don’t pick option 3 :-(
  10. Gareth

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 18:36 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.215 on Windows Vista:

    is a Mac application that still works.

    is a Windows programme that only downloads the radio side of iPlayer.
  11. Gareth

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 18:40 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.215 on Windows Vista:

    I post the above as alternatives in our time of need. ipdl has served us magnificently and I for one am grateful Mr B has seen fit to donate his time and expertise. I have no expertise in this area at all and would like to think I can return to ipdl one day soon.

    More power to your elbow, sir; we salute you!
  12. Nick

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 18:46 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows XP:

    Yes, there’s get-iPlayer and Radio Downloader but iPlayer Downloader is beautiful in the simple way it presents itself to the user and always does exactly what it says on the tin. So thank you, Paul. iPDl has been a delight to use and I hope that it will be again
  13. Matt

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 19:40 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    I would like to join the previous posters to thank you for your work and to say how gutted I am that the BBC have done this.

    If it’s a matter of money, I would be happy to make a donation if it would help….sure others would too!
  14. Lee

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 20:02 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    This is sad news. I hope you find the will to get around this pointless obstacle. I wrote my own AppleScript app around ipdl to add full radio shows to iTunes. I like listening back to full shows, not just podcasted highlights and the 7-day limit and lack of portability made ipdl a godsend.

    I’ll try out the link posted above by Gareth in the meantime.
    Cheers Paul,
  15. RB

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 20:33 UTC using Firefox 4.0b7 on Windows 7:

    Please continue – I use your program almost daily to download radio and listen on my iPhone “offline”. Will be lost without it.

    Hope you keep up the good work mate.

  16. Lee

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 20:43 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    Just tried Get IPlayer Automator – it downloaded one of the 9 things I asked it to. Looks like it’s been scuttled too :(
  17. Rob

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 20:55 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    I suppose it comes down to whether you have the time and inclination Paul. The principle that prompted you to make your downloader is still there.
  18. Marty

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 21:46 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Windows XP:

    Just saying thanks for a wonderful program – it’s brought me many, many hours of joy as I’ve been stuck in my van over the years. Good luck mate!
  19. Ivan

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 22:27 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.215 on Windows 7:

    Dear Paul

    I do hope you will find a way to make your programs work agaim.

    I too have used on or other of them to keep my Zen loaded with radio for the last couple of years.

    I can’t tell you how much pleasure I have had being able to download whole programs and series rather than recording them with audacity.

    What a tragedy that the BBC no longer seem to care.

    Regards and fingers crossed


    No where is the address for torrent pond :)
  20. Neil

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 22:32 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:


    Thanks for all your effort over numerous versions. I really appreciate it. As do my children, who watch Cbeebies on an iPod Touch on long car journeys. (They appreciate it, as do their parents!)


  21. Marcel

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 22:49 UTC using Mozilla on Windows XP:


    please, please option 1 or 2.
    Great tool.

  22. Chrisdiss3

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 22:52 UTC using Safari 6533.18.5 on Mac OS X:

    Thank you for a great programme which has provided many hours of enjoyment. I hope the service is re-enabled soon – meanwhile, shame on the killjoys of Broadcasting House.
  23. Tremerryn

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 23:02 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    A massive thank you for the tremendous amount of pleasure you have provided.

    Perhaps Donations for this service are in order. Hang in there, don’t give up.
  24. Rob G

    Wrote at 2010-12-12 23:23 UTC using Safari 533.18.5 on Mac OS X:

    IPDL changed my life and that of a number of colleagues, long boring walks to work suddenly became a joy of listening and learning with the best of R4 and Radio 6 from the previous week.

    I appreciate how much time and effort you have put in so far and hope that you have the opportunity to find a work around from this recent misguided move by the BBC to try and stop license payers accessing the content they have paid for in a way that suits their lifestyle.

    Many many thanks for the brilliant work you have done so far. Lets hope IPDL will be back on the air before too many good programmes slip by.


  25. Neil

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 00:48 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    I’d be so much happier if you could fix it for me. You don’t even have to be called Jim. Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please…etc x
  26. Des

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 01:41 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Thanks for all the great work Paul.
    It is a shame that the beeb have taken this path but not surprising.
    Sorry I can’t help with either of the solutions you listed and I hope you don’t choose the third one.
    Best of luck with this problem and best wishes for the forthcoming holiday season.
  27. Jess

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 08:43 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Windows XP:

    Does this also apply to blackberry (etc) clients?
  28. Andy Moore

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 08:47 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Thanks for all your work up until now Paul, ipdl is great!
    Have a great chrimbo
  29. Graham High

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 08:54 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows XP:

    If it has come to the end of the line Paul can I just say many many thanks for this brilliant little program.

    If you can find a way forward no-one would be happier than I as I love using ipldl, but regardless I just want you to know that your efforts were (and are) very much appreciated.

    All the best.
  30. Tony

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 08:57 UTC using Firefox 4.0b7 on Windows XP:

    Hi Po-ru. Real shame…hope you find a way around it cos the ipdl is a little gem and all us ipdl’ers think you da man! I use it to download the snooker and this just so happened during a BBC tournament so i was getting well paranoid! Thought they had blocked me or something. Coincidence…I live in Osaka by the way (still a UK license payer) so drop me a line if you’re ever back in town.
  31. Nick

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 09:11 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    Just wanted to thank you for making and supporting ipdl. It was one of my most valued programs and it made life a whole lot more pleasant.

    Good luck with all that you do in future.
  32. Mort

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 09:27 UTC using Firefox 3.6.12 on Windows XP:


    When the going gets tough the tough get going fella! Option 1or2 is the only way to go. Your tool is by far the simplest and best DL out there, don’t throw away all your hard work to date.
  33. Mike Holt

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 09:42 UTC using Firefox 3.6.8 on Windows XP:

    Thanks for the clarification Paul. I can see what a pain this is in coding terms.

    Dear all – please don’t pressure PB to solve every headache the BBC throws up: this is serious obstacle. He is right, the only viable alternative is the option 2 he gives (which for the non-technical, means capturing the stream which the iPlayer flash object uses instead, which is what the alternative get_iplayer tool can do.

    In light of that may I recommend David Woodhouse’s very good alternative ‘fork’ of get_iplayer which includes a very polished web-interface, which allows you to scroll through all the listed BBC radio and TV programmes and select what you want to record just with tickboxes. It downloads in batches, without taking up your time, can be scheduled to do downloads later or at night, and has a lot of extra functions including series-download and so on – attempting to near-match ‘Sky+’ type functionality. Takes a little getting used to but works a treat. Runs on Windows, Linux, Mac.

    Here is clip from DW’s own bulletin on it:
    David Woodhouse
    May 28, 11:08 am

    From: David Woodhouse
    Subject: get_iplayer update

    Since a few people here were interested…

    We’ve just pushed a new v2.78 release of get_iplayer, updated to work
    with the latest changes in how content is served. You can get it from
    or from the git repository which is at
    git:// (to clone)
    or (to browse)

    The one-click Windows installer has also been reinstated; it fetches
    everything you need and sets it all up for you:

    Users of Fedora Linux can just ‘yum install get_iplayer’, as long as
    they’ve added the rpmfusion “Fedora Extras for the Free World”
    repository… which they’d need do if they want to play any of the
    resulting files anyway. I believe the Debian/Ubuntu packages are being
    updated too.

    If you want further updates, join the mailing list at
  34. Mark

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 10:05 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Mac OS X:

    Paul, my wife and I live in Hanoi, Vietnam. Your little programme has brought us hours of pleasure. Satellite TV is a complete waste of time and iPDL has been a godsend.

    Please don’t give up on us or iPDL. Option 3 is not an option! We really appreciate your efforts – please take your time, but get your magical little programme working again.
  35. RichT

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 10:15 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows XP:

    Please don’t give up, Paul.

    I’ve been using ipdl for a good couple of years now, great for catching-up (TV AND Radio!) when you’ve been away and the Beeb don’t give you a ‘wide-enough’ window to view/listen (broadband might be commonly available, but time is still a premium! – to be able download at speed then catch-up at leisure is a gift!).

    As others above have said, we appreciate your time has value, and a little thank you is the least we can offer.
  36. Joe

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 10:17 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.215 on Windows 7:

    Don’t give up, that would make me a sad panda.

    I loved it, small lightweight and worked a treat.
  37. Andy Stewart

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 10:35 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    If you felt so inclined, perhaps you could enable the Pledgie button on your GitHub repo. Then everybody could chip in to make option 2 worth your while.

    Just a thought.
  38. Tony

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 10:41 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows XP:

    Thanks for the many years in which your hard work has given me many Radio 4 / Radio 7 programmes easily obtained (so I can play them on an MP3 player).

    Not quite as good, because you can’t browse the Radio listings (and catch the odd one off programme easily), and just download stuff, but I’d recommend Radio Downloader, which in its current incarnation is faster downloading that real time, even if it cannot (like IPDL) do multiple downloads at the same time. It does one off programmes, but you have to check the listings then navigate to find them in the A-Z listing.

    It is still working despite the BBC changes, and does allow subscriptions to programmes in series, and flagging favourites. The interface has improved considerably over the years.

    In the meantime, thanks again Paul.
  39. Simon

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 10:47 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Windows XP:

    Hi Paul

    Just adding my sentiments to those above. You have a very appreciative audience out here in web world. Yours is by far the easiest downloader to use – a simple copy and paste so if you can find the time and someone can offer you help with the client key then please, please carry on.

    I have used get iplayer in tandem with ipdl and although powerful it is clunky. For those of you who are struggling with it, do wade through the help files. They are quite useful. For simplicity, I use the ‘pid’ – Programme ID – code to download with. For example, to download a Dr Who radio episode use:

    get_iplayer—type=radio pid b00sdxsf

    The pid is found in the address bar for the programme:

    For TV, use:
    get_iplayer—pid b00wv263 This will get QI XL

    The judicious use of the F1 key at the command prompt of get iplayer can save a lot of typing! (It repeats what you have previously typed)

    Oh, having previewed the above it is not obvious that the apparent long dash before—pid in the code is in fact two individual dashes – -

    Long live IPDL!!
  40. Mark Bailey

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 10:58 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows XP:

    If this is the end, I just wanted to say thank you for those many, many hours of pleasure you have given us.
  41. Paul Garbett

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 11:04 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.215 on Windows XP:

    Like many who have posted I wanted to say thank you Paul – I’ve used ipdl extensively since I discovered it and I love the fact that it is lightweight, focussed on doing what it does well and just very, very useful.

    If you decide to go for option 3 it will be with a clear conscience given the pleasure you have brought to us all.

    Someone else suggested pledges or donations – I’d be happy to dig in if it helps
  42. Peter

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 11:22 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows 7:

    Dear Paul, an excellent couple of years with you; thanks very much.
    Do let us all know if you have a fix.
    Thanks again. I have been able to listen to so many R4 plays when abroad when working as a result of your downloader!!!
    Peter from Jersey
  43. Martin

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 11:34 UTC using Firefox 3.0.19 on Linux:

    As above. I have used this a lot since coming across it and will miss it. Shame on the Beeb. I hope you can find a way of carrying on.
  44. Professor Hog

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 11:35 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Paul, IPD has been amazing, hope you get the assistance you require. Thanks for all your efforts.
  45. Mark

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 12:45 UTC using Firefox 3.6.12 on Mac OS X:

    So sorry to hear this won’t be working any more. Many thanks for your previous hard work.

    I’m currently trying to use get_iplayer but not having a huge amount of success. Can anyone help?

    I’ve got as far as installing it and worked out what I have to do to download using the PID (thanks @simon), but it doesn’t seem to work:

    I type:

    WARNING: Required mplayer does not exist
    INFO: skipping wma1 mode
    ERROR: Failed to record ‘Classic Serial – I, Claudius: 2. Tiberius (b00wdcy0)’

    Anyone know what I’m doing wrong here? I’ve tried several programmes and get same kind of messages.


  46. John McI

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 12:47 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:


    Thank you for developing this product in the past. It has been really good and helpful.

    It is a real pain it is no longer available, the Beeb are being a pain in the butt.
  47. Mo

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 14:01 UTC using Safari 533.18.5 on Mac OS X:

    It’s a good thing those “professional pirates” can’t just wander into a branch of Maplin, hand over £20 and walk out with a generic USB DVB-T stick which works with Windows and (as of vaguely recent kernels) Linux, or else all of these efforts would be for nought!
  48. Bob

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 14:07 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    I have used your progamme alot . I don’t know about the technical wizardry behind it but I would like to thank you for developing the programme and making it available. You deserve a massive thank you from everyone.

    Happy Christmas
  49. Nan M

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 14:45 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Linux:

    The team at Flvstreamer/Rtmpdump have done a lot of work tweaking those ssl parameters.
    To get into all that handshaking stuff, a person needs to get complicated like they have with get_iplayer.
    There’s lots of help in their mailing list and it’s not so hard to pick up.

    I don’t think Paul should have to re-invent their wheel. And this would go against the lightness of his application anyway. The beeb want to be perverse and turn life into a grind, so be it.

    Paul did iplayer-dl/iPlayerDownloader so well and so spiffingly neatly for the time it was possible.
    Salute to you Mr Battley and many thanks for all the fish ;-)
  50. Tom Adams (@holizz)

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 15:19 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.215 on Linux:

    Now I’ll have to be a law-abiding citizen of cyberspace and download my Dr Who from Swedish torrent sites like everybody else.

    Thank you, Paul, for providing a decent tool for so long and giving us all a good laugh at the Beeb’s futile attempts at achieving an impossible goal.
  51. Chip

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 15:19 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.215 on Windows 7:

    It’s all been said already, but I just wanted to add my thanks to Paul for making this really useful tool available. Whatever you decide to do with it in the future, it’s been brilliant so far.
  52. Jon

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 16:21 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows Vista:

    I’ve been using IPDL for many years. Whatever you decide to do many thanks for your time and work, it IS greatly appreciated.
  53. Diego

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 16:23 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Windows XP:

    Thank you Paul for all your hard work in developing this. This has been a God send as my PC is slow and old and my broadband connection is just as slow.

    Can I ask how do you use get_iPlayer? I’ve downloaded the exe file and installed it but can’t find the help files and I can’t figure out how I’m supposed to use it.

    Any helpful info or links would be great, cheers.
  54. Dave Stewart

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 17:06 UTC using Mozilla on Linux:

    I wouldn’t waste time on apple client certs. If I were the BBC, I’d already have RBLDNSD set up and running with an empty “compromised keys” zone that can be populated with key fingerprints that have been seen in tools like iplayer-dl.

    (And if that hadn’t occurred to the BBC yet, apologies for mentioning it here in the open where they can see it).

    Regardless of which route you choose, thanks for all your work over the years.
  55. Lionel

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 18:03 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows XP:

    Thanks for all your excellent work Paul. I have loved using your programme as I travel a lot and I download programmes on the laptop or ipod to watch when I am away. I hope you do decide to go on because you have help a lot of people.

    Good luck mate in all your projects
  56. MikeH

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 18:51 UTC using Firefox 3.6.12 on Windows XP:

    @anyone else unfamiliar with get_iplayer:-

    If you’ve installed the windows version, you should have a new folder under Start—> Programs called get_iplayer. Hover on that, and there should be seven items showing within it: one of them is called
    “Web PVR Manager”.

    Click on “Web PVR Manager”: this will run a DOS console window: (don’t be alarmed – but you MUST leave this open :-). This is, in effect, opening a “web service”, in order to make it easy for you to control the program, just from a BROWSER. So you’re going to do that, but using the browser to browse your own PC (browse itself):

    So now: open your favourite webbrowser: and in the address bar at the top, type EXACTLY this and nothing else:

    type that in the address bar and press ‘Enter’.

    What that is doing, is browsing your own PC (yes remarkably it can do that). The “” is a special reserved IP address, which always means “myself in address terms. The ” on the end, is the IP ‘portnumber’: and that program you started a few minutes before – the “Web PVR Manager” – is in fact a web service running on, that is, outputting data through, port 1935.

    So – your browser, now “sees” the output of that service: and through that route, it gives you a lovely web-interface, for looking up programmes, checking which ones you’d like to record, and recording them. The tabs across the top allow you to find different functions (“search” is the starting point), and you can use the direct links beside programme images (“hover” on the various links, to see the little ‘tooltip’ which explains what they all do). It takes alittle familiarising, but you’ll get used to it.

    [ Sorry Paul for using space here – just just trying to help ]
  57. Radio1Addict

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 18:54 UTC using Firefox on Windows Vista:

    This is what Paul had said 5.5 months ago in his “device-discrimination” thread:
    Paul Battley
    Wrote at 2010-06-23 23:53 UTC (5 months ago) using Chrome 6.0.433.0 on Linux:
    Mo, securegate is (or appears to be) used to serve a mediaselector XML document that points to the content, like this:
    Interestingly, the iPod Touch doesn’t have the requisite certificate, which suggests that the BBC won’t be able to lock down the iPhone version in the same way. (Unquote)

    If I understood it correctly, this is in fact what THEY have done on 09/12 (by quitting support for older iPods and forcing updates to latest iOS – which comes with the needed Apple certificate?).
    Please Paul (and all the rest of the knowledgeable programmers), DON’T let them have the last laugh on this!
  58. steve

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 18:57 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    Very many thanks for all the work you have put into this project. It has been a great tool.
  59. Mark

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 19:07 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows Vista:

    I am already missing this essential tool. Don’t let them grind you down. They tried to stop my radio drama blog ( earlier but the little guys like us have to be resilient.
    Should it prove impossible, then you can believe you have done more than anyone could ask for. がんばってポール
  60. Brera

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 19:07 UTC using Safari 6533.18.5 on Mac OS X:

    Just to reiterate what others have said – thank you so much for all the hard, and unpaid work you’ve put in over the years creating, maintaining & improving such a wonderful software gem.

    You’ve given so much pleasure to so many people…
  61. mat

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 20:01 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows XP:

    Shame on the bbc for putting an end to this. Was incredibly simple to use and got thousands of hours of radio pleasure which meant travel wasnt as tedious as it can be. Opened up my eyes to how good the bbc was.

    Thanks for everything. Hopefully one day a solution can be found.
  62. Sunny Jim

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 21:00 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Personal circumstances (bad reception area, communal roof access issues) mean I’ve had no conventional TV reception at all since September & can expect none for the next 6 months, despite paying the licence fee. It has been a great source of entertainment & consolation to be able to use iPlayer downloader to transfer TV shows to an old offline laptop & watch them in my lounge, rather than upright in front of my desktop PC.

    I too hope that a solution can be found but like Mike Holt said earlier, please don’t try & pressure Paul. Meanwhile, thanks also to the good people behind get_iplayer: it’s not as difficult to use as it looks, though it seems to take longer.

    Thanks as always Paul, good luck and have a great Christmas.
  63. Simon Broad

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 21:02 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows Vista:

    Noooooo, a friend only told me about your app a couple of weeks ago! Worked really well and I got pretty hooked on it as I don’t watch TV as a general rule and this gave me much more flexibility in when I can watch something! AWESOME app….damn you BBC! I hope you find a workaround….good luck Paul :-)
  64. Johnny

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 21:04 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    Hey Paul,

    Would just like to same thank you for all the effort you put in the iplayer downloader.

    I hope you find a solution as you program is one of my favourites.

    Thanks again for all your hard unpaid work.
  65. Rich

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 21:23 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.215 on Windows XP:


    Many thanks for a great program. Will be sadly missed. It’s lucky that there are people like you who are happy to do this sort of thing unpaid. I like others would happily give a donation to get it up and running again if that would help.

    Happy Christmas
  66. Laura

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 21:24 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    Just want to also say thank you Paul. I’ve been using ipdl to download radio shows and listening at work for years. I used to have to play the show again on iplayer and then use recording software (for the duration of the show) so when I first started using ipdl it was a godsend! Thanks for the work that went into it.

    Also thanks to Mike Holt for the alternative suggestion – is working perfectly.
  67. David Hurn

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 22:02 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    The programme happened to go down on my birthday (10th). Just when I wanted to download my birthday shout out from Judge Jules on radio one. Oh well, I only normally use this downloader for radio programmes, so I’m using the other programme.

    However, I would just like to echo everyone else’s thanks to you Paul. This programme is an actual life saver, and you deserve all the credit! Very much appreciated.

    Kind regards
  68. philip sturtivant

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 22:31 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    Until my DVD recorder died (and likewise my knackered old analogue VCR) , I could record any BBC TV show I could receive via Freeview.

    I pay my licence fee to BBC: why must a tax-funded public broadcaster bully me into buying commercial proprietary hardware in order to be able to record on my hard drive, what I am permitted to record on those old bits of kit?

    Yours has been a magnificent application to use. Simple, easy, reliable – I hope it does not die.
  69. Tim

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 23:01 UTC using Firefox 3.6.12 on Linux:

    70 odd comments in a couple of days – and I’ll wager that’s the tip of the iceberg!

    For my part I’m a bit gutted. The downloaded teletubbies episodes have been a life-saver, and I really fail to understand the logic of episode 1 of a series lasting 10 weeks when the last episode is only available for one week… :(

    Just to echo the above comments, many thanks for all the effort you’ve put into ipdl (so far?).

    I’d be interested to know if the the beeb will see a significant drop in their “iPhone” users now.
  70. toinette

    Wrote at 2010-12-13 23:28 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    Thank you very much indeed Paul, for all your hard work. I am truly grateful for your excellent application, which I use constantly for radio and TV. I have a G4 PPC and the new AIR app will never work properly on my Mac.

    I do hope that the Corporation changes its mind on this issue.

    Thanks again. §:-D
  71. BillFr00g

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 00:55 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Windows XP:

    Fab. Thanks. Missed immediately.
    What more can I add.
    You’re a man who knows where his towel is.
    Nice One ;)
  72. Jen

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 04:47 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    well what a blow to one’s equilibrium, Paul, Thank you so much for all you have done, I for one thought you were invincible, I do hope you don’t give up and find a work around, what more can I say than Thank you for the hours of pleasure you have given to those of us who are less gifted than yourself, your selfless acts of sharing your work is probably more than many of us deserve, a real gentleman x
  73. terence-john

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 10:37 UTC using Firefox 4.0b7 on Windows XP:

    I’d like to add my sincere thanks to Paul for all the effort he has put in over the years. ipdl is a great little piece of software, and it would be a shame to lose the functionality it provides.
  74. Chris

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 10:51 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Mac OS X:

    Paul, I too would like to add my thanks for all your work on the software that that has been so very useful to so many of us. The BBC really needs to get things into perspective. We’ve all been, ‘downloading’ onto VCRs, DVDs and PVRs for years and I doubt that the ‘iPod’ downloads have been anything other than another form of time-shifting for most of us. The idea that these pint-size versions pose any sort of copyright threat is ludicrous. Sigh.
  75. Becky

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 11:52 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    This is a real shame. I never used it to pirate programmes. I used your great tool so I could download programmes to take on holiday with me for a duration of only one week but it allowed me to view programmes offline without using a data connection abroad. There was nothing dodgy about it, nothing sinister, I was not stealing anything I just needed to run them without data connection.

    Thanks for all your hard work in creating this excellent tool, it is a shame your efforts are now in vain. Good luck.
  76. Diego

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 13:30 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Windows XP:

    @ MikeH, and others. Thanks for the helpful info, despite some error messages I have it working, thanks. It’s not as good as ipdl, but anyway I’ve taken up enough space but I’ll just say thanks again to Paul and I hope you can find a way to work it out, I’d be glad to contribute a few £ to a Paypal account if that would help.
  77. TJR

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 14:37 UTC using Firefox 3.6.12 on Windows 7:

    Thank you so much,Paul, for the excellent ipdl. I have used it only for radio downloads, and it has rekindled my joy in BBC drama. As a technophobe I am now cut adrift from the pleasure of radio on demand (long journeys will, again, be soul destroying ). I proffer my appreciation for your past efforts and hope something can be done to rectify the situation.
    Shame on the BBC
  78. JohnBoy

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 16:19 UTC using Firefox 3.6.12 on Windows Vista:

    @Simon (or anyone)
    This episode of QI is on the BBC HD channel now..
    (just using it as an example)

    How would i download it (hd) using get_iplayer?

    Been trying over the last few days to d/led hd content but struggling.
    I have d/led a high quality flash version of Eastenders (no fan btw)

    But now all of a sudden my tv d/ls seem to be mp4 only.

  79. simon p

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 16:19 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows XP:

    Paul, sorry to see the demise of the best program for capturing output from the B.B.C. I’ve used your excellent program for a couple of years now, and am really angry that
    the beeb are preventing licence payers from using ‘new’ technology to record programmes. Thanks once again Paul.
    simon p
  80. Stuart

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 16:32 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Windows XP:

    There must be millions of homes in the UK with PVRs that do exactly what Pauls program does, but with full definition material and no DRM restrictions.
    Exactly what logic lies behind the BBCs spitefulness, in being so difficult over portable and relatively low resolution devices, completely escapes me.
    In modern society, with so many people on the move via public transport or whatever, the ability to view and catch up with previously broadcast material at a time convenient to THEM is blindingly evident and makes the BBCs attitude all the more perverse.
    Anyway, more power to Pauls elbow and wishing him every success in circumventing this silly restriction, should he so decide.

    Cheers mate, and many thanks!
  81. Scratcher

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 16:39 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    May I suggest the program HiDownload Platinum version. It’s free to try for one month and saves the aac-lc from either the ‘live’ or on demand options on the iPlayer in their FLV wrapper. The downloaded file can then be non-destructively edited with Moyea FLV Editor Lite (free) and the aac-lc files extracted with FLVExtract.exe (also free). It’s all a bit long-winded compared to ipdl.exe but you do get higher definition results (aac-lc rather than mp3, for instance). The new ‘HD audio’ option for Radio 3 seems to unreliable to risk using HiDownload with it, but the standard on demand 192kbps aac-lc is captured perfectly well.

    Worth investigating anyway.

    Best of luck with sorting out ipdl.exe, Paul. It’s a fine bit of work you did there. Thanks.
  82. Bakery

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 16:41 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows XP:

    Well – what can you say – Paul has made a good few thousand people happy with his technical skills (as is apparent from the comments here) and deserves all the praise that has been given. I simply cannot understand the perverted logic of the BBC when anyone with recording capabilities can record programmes directly from the TV and keep them for as long as they like but the same (licence paying!) people cannot download them and keep them from the BBC’s web site. Where’s the difference??!!
  83. Chris Dodsworth

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 18:05 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Thanks very much for providing this program while it lasted. I was dissapointed to find that the BBC have blocked it again but i have already found an acceptable solution for grabbing the radio shows that i need for work.

    I’ve bought myself a Bug Too DAB radio which has a timer record feature that saves radio shows to an SD card in MP2 which i can copy to my player. I hope this helps some others that need an alternative, but only for radio.

  84. Leo

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 18:54 UTC using Firefox 3.0.19) on Mac OS X:

    Paul, thanks for all your work.
    Please try to find a workaround!
    (Happy to make a donation if it’ll help.)
  85. Phillip

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 19:14 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.215 on Windows Vista:

    i have used ipdl allot and want to thank you, but would it be easier to create a iphone/ipod app doing what ipdl did as then it would have the Apple-signed client certificate but its weather apple would allow it to be put on the app store
    Thanks for your amazing program, please don’t give up
  86. Special-K

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 19:47 UTC using Firefox 3.0.19 on Windows XP:

    John Boy


    get_iplayer —pid b00wv263 —force

    Note there are spaces before ”—”
    See if that works

    You could always convert using SUPER

    (Download link near bottom of page)

    Good luck!
  87. Frayxius

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 20:00 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows Vista:

    I echo Leo’s comments …I’d be only too pleased to donate if it helped keep the ipdl working.

    Have a rethink buddy!
  88. Jon

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 20:25 UTC using Chrome 7.0.517.41 on Linux:

    Thanks Paul,
  89. Steve

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 20:29 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    where are people downloading get_iplayer from? Ive downloaded one version from here:

    But i cant find a .exe file to install the program.

    Anyone any help please? Theres a program on the iplayer that will be gone by tomorrow which i would like!

    Thanks! all help much appreciated.
  90. Dougie

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 20:46 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:


    In the words of Douglas Adams – so long, and thanks for all the fish.

    Your program has been great for those long journeys; and with the news that the BBC are bringing a version of the iPlayer as an app to US users just highlights what a kick in the teeth this is to the very people who fund their “business”.

    Don’t give up – I’m happy to put my money where my mouth is, and so it appears will everyone else who appears above me in these comments.


  91. Steve

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 20:52 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    has anyone got any other alternatives to downloading radio programmes off the iplayer? I’ve tried get_iplayer but cant figure out how to use it. Are there any other alternatives? Thanks
  92. Des

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 21:59 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Steve-You need to use Radio Downloader-0.18.2 is latest version.
    Great to see so many people thanking Paul.
  93. liv

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 22:16 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    thank you ipdl was great and i will miss it.
  94. H

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 22:30 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Get it here steve –
  95. Lydia

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 23:05 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    thanks for everything paul!

    does anyone know any version of radio downloader (or something similar) for mac?

    thanks xx
  96. jbhq

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 23:42 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Paul “tongue in cheek option 3” Battley?
    patience! he is winding you up good style … and fooled so many!
    I’m right behind you Paul. Good man.
  97. Welshmike

    Wrote at 2010-12-14 23:56 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Linux:

    Let my join in and say how much I have appreciated your work Paul.
    Thank you ^ n.

    Also many thanks JohnBoy and especially Phil Lewis, Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, Fabrice Bellard, et al.

    I run Linux/Ubuntu as my operating system so
    1. I installed get-iplayer from the Ubuntu Software Centre.

    2. I wanted to capture Blair versus Hitchens: The Religion Debate from BBC Radio 4 Archive on 4
    so i ran Linux commands and here is the abbreviated command stream
    mike@mike-i3-laptop:~$ get-iplayer—type=radio “Archive”
    get_iplayer v2.66, Copyright© 2008-2010 Phil Lewis
    10284:Archive on 4 – Blair versus Hitchens: The Religion Debate, BBC Radio 4, Factual,Popular,Radio
    INFO: 1 Matching Programmes

    mike@mike-i3-laptop:~$ get_iplayer—get 10284
    WARNING: ffmpeg does not exist – not converting flv file
    Starting download at: 0.000 kB
    56848.717 kB / 3479.05 sec (100.0%)
    Download complete

    This downloaded file named Archive_on_4_-_Blair_versus_Hitchens_The_Religion_Debate_b00wv3vt_default.flv was filed in my /home/mike folder
    Because I did not have ffmpeg installed the above Flash Video (flv) video file does not have video but the sound plays on plays on Ubuntu Movie Player.

    3. To get the Mpeg-4 audio file I installed ffmpeg from the Ubuntu Software Centre and repeated command:
    mike@mike-i3-laptop:~$ get_iplayer—get 10284

    The file named Archive_on_4_-_Blair_versus_Hitchens_The_Religion_Debate_b00wv3vt_default.aac , a Mpeg-4 audio file, was filed in my /home/mike folder
    The above plays on Ubuntu Movie Player.
  98. Welshmike

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 00:03 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Linux:

    My apologies for such a long post above. I’ve only now discovered that I should have used a paste service and linked to it instead.
  99. G

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 01:37 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Yes Thank you very much
  100. nic

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 05:07 UTC using Firefox 3.6.12 on Windows XP:

    good man, Paul – and good luck with the next chess move for downloader. I’m sure it can be done.
  101. Jason

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 07:58 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows 7:

    Hi Paul, just wanted to say thanks so much for the downloader, it has been fantastic to use and it’s sad to see it go. Your time and effort has been greatly appreciated. I’m now using Radio Downloader and Stream Transport as alternatives, but they’re not a patch on ipdl. Thanks mate!
  102. L. Rivlin

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 08:33 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    I pay my licence fees in the UK but I also do a lot of travelling abroad. Live feed is just not possible on the sort of uncertain connections one often gets in foreign parts and hotels so, since I discovered the Downloader, I have made a habit of compiling a library of programmes, hoarding them as precious commodities for when I go away.
    Listening to these downloaded radio programmes has been the best device to induce sleep in unfamiliar surroundings and I am very grateful to you for your wonderful Downloader. I am truly worried about what I shall do now—not being a computer geek, fiddling about with the root program is beyond me and it looks like I am going to be back to the Dark Ages (and sleepless nights) again.
  103. L. Rivlin

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 08:35 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    PS. As someone else suggested—I would very gladly make a donation to help you get your program up and running again.
  104. radiohead

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 10:43 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Yes, thank you for a fantastic programme. I’m now back (temporarily, I hope) to using the timer on my DAB radio to download onto SD cards. Unfortunately, this means that I have to:

    – think ahead
    – convert the downloaded mp2 files to mp3
    – laboriously title each file individually
    – take great pains to do this consistently!

    Having ipdownloader back would be a great Christmas present for us all!
  105. dave

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 11:38 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    Thanks for the info – I wondered why it had stopped working recently.
  106. Stuart

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 12:36 UTC using Firefox 3.6.12 on Windows Vista:

    Thanks Paul for the great program. It’s a shame the BBC have done this, it was a brilliant program, and I hope they will be a way for you to get it going again, if you can’t then I will have to find some other program that can do the job just as good. Thanks again for a brilliant program.
  107. Sarah

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 12:38 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows XP:

    I reiterate what was said here before. Thank you for everything you
    have provided for us. I have been dependant on your program for quite
    a while now and I miss it greatly.

    I too have been trying to use the get_iplayer program but I have failed
    to do so. I just don’t seem to be able to ‘get’ it and other people on here
    make it seem so easy to use. I wish I wasn’t so thick at times. :(

    Are there any instructions for it anywhere that spell it out step by step,
    eg, 1- do this, 2 – type this etc, then maybe I could get somewhere withit.

    Is it not as compatible for Vista as other OS’s?
  108. Nan M

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 13:30 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Linux:

    @ Sarah, and anybody else lost with get_iplayer.

    First principles of using the command line, instead of a Graphical User Interface like iPlayer Downloader, can be got from an article like here:
    Once you understand what the ‘command prompt’ is, and you have get_iplayer installed, copy/paste this line:
    man get_iplayer
    at the command prompt and get reading. :-)
    Note that syntax is vital in all command lines. Nobody can give you a formula without a lot of fiddling, so you have to do your own groundwork learning a program’s syntax using the help files and trial and error.
    With get_iplayer, there’s a fair range of very helpful error messages.

    Then, take your questions to the appropriate user’s forum for your version of get_iplayer. If you don’t want to join the mailing list for support that Paul linked to, then ggle is your friend.
  109. Dave Massingham

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 13:51 UTC using Firefox on Linux:

    Many Thanks for the last few years of being able to download what I, and all other U.K. residents / TV licence payers have already paid for.
    What is the legal position for this blocking?
    If the programme is played through your PC,
    surely it can still be captured from the sound card memory / video memory? So blocking it is somewhat pointless in practical terms.
    As you say, bittorrents still can help, as well as get_iplayer.

    Good Luck whatever your decision,
  110. henryg

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 13:59 UTC using Firefox 4.0b7 on Windows 7:

    What a great and helpful program this has been.

    I can understand the BBC wishing to stop piracy, but the vast majority will use it for entirely legitimate and fair purposes; in my case time shifting to listing to in the gym or before sleeping. Many a time has BBC R4 or R7 sent me to sleep ;-)

    And it won’t even slow the true pirates down.
  111. Dave Massingham

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 14:21 UTC using Firefox on Linux:

    Further to my last…
    I have just done as suggested earlier, and compiled flvstreamer for use with get_iplayer.
    I downloaded ‘Coast’ using:
    get_iplayer --type=tv --modes=flashlow --pid=b00wv9jc

    Using ffmpeg I should be able to change format also?

    Go to linux everyone it’ll keep you sane…it’ll empower you…

    Thanks to all the geniuses out there who understand how the ‘net works and can program!!!!
  112. liv

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 15:47 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    I don’t know what i’ll do now, being able to watch tv(which i’ve already paid for) anywhere made many a boring journey bearable.
    I like many others i would be happy to make a donation if it helps.thanks once again and good luck
    in the future.
  113. Mark

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 16:34 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    If only the BBC would allow a reasonable time frame in which to watch programs then I think some would simply use iplayer itself. But to only allow storage for less than two weeks is both mean and stupid and, in my case, not workable: sometimes circumstances dictate that I can’t get time to watch a program within a fortnight or more.

    The BBC’s behaviour makes me increasingly angry. It’s wrong for them to behave like an aggressive greedy private company, when instead they should be thankful for their unique funding and respectful of UK citizens that pay them all so handsomely.

    Thanks, Paul, for all your work. It’s heartening to know there are decent people around.
  114. Amanda

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 16:44 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    I’ve downloaded Get IPlayer but cannot figure out how to use it. I want to download programmes not radio. Could some kind person please take pity and explain what to do from start to finsh in the most basic specking to an idiot ‘’me’’ terms….:)......Thank you
  115. Luke

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 17:14 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Mac OS X:

    I’ve also downloaded get_iplayer and whilst it does seem to be working (and actually is working for radio), it is failing to download any TV programme that I put in. Is there a reason for this?

  116. Leo

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 17:21 UTC using Firefox 3.0.19) on Mac OS X:

    Get iPlayer Automator (for Mac) stopped working on Sunday 12/12.
    No radio or TV programmes broadcast since then are available to download now
  117. Greg Fleming

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 20:43 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Linux:

    Paul, like many other comments have reflected, I too have enjoyed your download tool for a few years and would like to offer my support.

    I know programming can be a joy as well as a fucking drag, but I would like to offer a donation if it would help.

    Best regards
  118. Ian

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 22:44 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    I’d just like to add my thanks to the growing list of well deserved compliments headed in Paul’s direction. Also, I’m impressed with the degree of civility expressed in the comments here. It’s heartening to see that, despite the levels of frustration and disappointment with the Beeb’s actions, that anger is not being directed at Paul.

    He created and maintained a wonderful tool that did one thing perfectly with no fuss or clutter. It was so simple that my 70 something mother used it.

    Fingers crossed that somewhere out there, perhaps in the iPhone jailbreaking community, the knowledge exists on how to extract an iOS client key.

    Thanks again Paul – stay safe riding on those London streets.
  119. LD

    Wrote at 2010-12-15 22:55 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows XP:

    Paul – the significant generosity represented by the investment of your own time in having created this wonderful tool should be better recognised. All I can do is to express my huge gratitude to you. Many thanks.
  120. DaveK

    Wrote at 2010-12-16 00:28 UTC using Firefox 3.5.3 on Windows XP:

    Is there enough info in a dump like this for you to be able to re-create the original cert from?


    Version: 3 (0×2)
    Serial Number:
    Signature Algorithm: sha1WithRSAEncryption
    Issuer: C=US, O=Apple Inc., OU=Apple iPhone, CN=Apple iPhone Device CA
    Not Before: Oct 20 02:12:42 2009 GMT
    Not After : Oct 20 02:12:42 2012 GMT
    Subject: CN=F7066122-C872-469D-8B17-9D16E59ED1C4, C=US, ST=CA, L=Cupertino, O=Apple Inc., OU=iPhone
    Subject Public Key Info:
    Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption
    RSA Public Key: (1023 bit)
    Modulus (1023 bit):
    Exponent: 65537 (0×10001)
    X509v3 extensions:
    X509v3 Authority Key Identifier:

    X509v3 Subject Key Identifier:
    X509v3 Basic Constraints: critical
    X509v3 Key Usage: critical
    Digital Signature, Key Encipherment
    X509v3 Extended Key Usage: critical
    TLS Web Server Authentication, TLS Web Client Authentication
    Signature Algorithm: sha1WithRSAEncryption
  121. DaveK

    Wrote at 2010-12-16 00:47 UTC using Firefox 3.5.3 on Windows XP:


    which has a walk-through of how to use wireshark to snarf the cert off the wire, can be useful.
  122. Dave Stewart

    Wrote at 2010-12-16 04:07 UTC using Mozilla on Linux:

    DaveK— Nice try, but Wireshark can only grab the PUBLIC half of a certificate/key pair, be it the client or server cert.

    In order to negotiate an SSL connection you need both the secret (private) and non secret (public) parts of the certificate/key pair.

    It is all well and good being able to replay a valid, Apple-signed public certificate, but if you can’t then use the corresponding private key to decrypt responses sent by the server, you are no better off than you were before.

    (Also, that openssl X509 dump looks like the public part only, although it’s late and my sleep deprived brain may have skipped an important detail)
  123. JohnBoy

    Wrote at 2010-12-16 08:41 UTC using Firefox 3.6.12 on Windows Vista:

    @Amanda (or anyone struggling)
    Paul doesn’t what these comments to be a support forum for get-iplayer.
    So email me @ and i will send you (very)simple instructions

  124. s ford

    Wrote at 2010-12-16 11:33 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.231 on Mac OS X:

    Didn’t realize how much I loved the iPlayer downloader til it was gone. Now I’m like a crack junky looking for my next fix.

    Tried for hours to use the get_iplayer piece of complexity but gave up.

    So please find a way of developing another tool to get around this problem!
  125. DaveK

    Wrote at 2010-12-16 14:15 UTC using Firefox 3.5.3 on Windows XP:

    Dave Stewart – Yeh, d’oh! I realised I had been talking nonsense after sleeping on it overnight. LOL, a PKI that sends the private keys over the wire would be good for comedy purposes but not much else.

    There’s a keychain manager in iOS devices that can be used to export them. Also, I expect (but don’t have an apple device to test it with) that the key and cert would turn up in the profile data that you can extract from a phone to your PC (for backup purposes) using the “iPhone Configuration Utility” linked from

    Of course there’s the revocation problem if we just use one device’s identity. Does Apple deliver these devices with host keys and certs pre-loaded, or is it all done during initial online registration of the device? It would be neat if we could trick Apple’s registration servers into signing our own freshly-generated keys for us ;-)

    Otherwise… I guess it’s RTMPE. Would it help if someone wrote some ruby bindings for librtmp?
  126. Stankonia

    Wrote at 2010-12-16 15:07 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.215 on Windows XP:

    A tool that can take Wiresharks output and then insert (copy and paste) it into the new downloader could suffice.

    No problem with revokation since each individual (at own risk) would supply their own Client Key before initiating the download and there would be no reliance on one persons client key or trying to fool Apple’s servers in signing newly generated keys.
  127. Bruce

    Wrote at 2010-12-16 15:56 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    Thanks Paul for what you have done so far – I hope you don’t give up.
    I have loved using IPDL for a year or two, and it solved some problems I had using iPlayer (which were impossible to solve due to to total frustration of trying to get answers from BBC and the wilful incompetence of their “help” processes)
  128. Jon

    Wrote at 2010-12-16 17:13 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.215 on Linux:

    I’m absolutely gutted this isn’t working any more. I’ve used this at least once a week for a couple of years now. And as a licence fee payer, it has allowed me to enjoy the BBC more than I ever have.
  129. Tonic6

    Wrote at 2010-12-16 19:03 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows XP:

    I have been using IPDL for some timenow and am gutted that the organisation I pay my licence fee to have now stopped me 9and many others) from litening to my favourite programs when and where I want to, without being connected to the internet.
    thanks for your efforts, please dont give up and let them win
  130. Rudeboy

    Wrote at 2010-12-16 19:49 UTC using Firefox 3.6.10 on Windows XP:

    Dear BBC….

    Why, oh why, oh why?
    You petty-minded bastards!
  131. Scurra

    Wrote at 2010-12-16 23:19 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    And another thank-you for such a wonderful tool that the BBC has seen fit to nobble, despite the fact that we have paid for the service already.

    I mean, I assume that the BBC are dimly aware that a fair chunk of their radio archive only exists because people like me recorded hours and hours of stuff onto tape because we liked it so much.
  132. Mark

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 01:12 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows Vista:

    The worst news at this time of year.The IPDL was by far the most user friendly tool for downloading. I had been using it for nearly 2 years to download material for my radio drama blog ( and also for beeb video.

    For those affected by the beeb’s backroom boys tinkering and as a salute to Paul’s IPDL, anyone needing ‘Drama-To-Go’ can to gain full access to my blog by emailing me via my blog and quoting “po-ru” (till this time next year when I hope IPDL is back) .

    I am now, reluctantly, using other applications to download audio and video and if anyone would like directions on how to install and use these applications, then email me via my above blog.
  133. amanda durnan

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 07:57 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Windows 7:

    Hi I would just like to say a great big thank you, the radio downloads have made a nightmare commute enjoyable.

    I really think we should put our foot down and say NO to the BBC could we start a petition or bombard them with complaints, why roll over and accept this, its time to make a stand!
  134. Neriah

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 07:57 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows 7:

    1. Grrr @ the BBC for being daft.

    2. Ongoing thanks to Paul for IPDL, which I use to get radio comedy onto my phone to listen to when walking the dogs.

    3. (SOLUTION?) I just downloaded & installed “Radio Downloader” for Windows from (got the link from a comment above – thanks).

    It was easy to install and use and even includes the programme image in the d/l MP3. Just copied the MP3 to my Sony Ericsson phone and it plays fine.

    Wondering why “Radio Downloader” can snag iPlayer radio programmes still but IPDL can’t?!?
  135. Lee

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 07:58 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    I haven’t tried this yet:

    but since it’s just been updated today that implies it may work for Mac users. I’m naturally skeptical but will give it a go later (unless someone comes on here in the meantime and tells me it doesn’t work).
  136. Nan M

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 08:35 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Linux:

    Matt Robinson’s getting the streams from the net, similar to get_iplayer’s method. Any computer/player can intercept streams as long as there’s a stream interpreting program on the hardware.

    Paul’s getting (was) access directly to the files offered by the beeb for iplayers. No streaming involved. And no iplayer either.

    So kind of the beeb to look after a minority like that, isn’t it? :-/
  137. Lee

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 09:18 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    I can confirm now that the mac program BBC iPlayer Downloader that I linked to above, does not work. I’m guessing it’s a wrapper around ipdl anyway, although it beggars belief that they could release an update today with no knowledge of the issues surrounding authorisation.

    In short – don’t bother
  138. Jane

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 09:56 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    I am completely lost without igrabber. It changed my life. I listened to stuff all day as I worked, and have been downloading some wonderful old comedy that is just not available on DVD. I simply can’t believe that this is the end? There MUST be somebody who can fix it for us? I’d do it if I knew one end of a computer from another, and would happily pay a (large!) monthly subscription just to have it back again. PLEASE, please, someone, fix it!
  139. Jane

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 09:59 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    I am completely lost without igrabber. It changed my life. I listened to stuff all day as I worked, and have been downloading some wonderful old comedy that is just not available on DVD. I simply can’t believe that this is the end? There MUST be somebody who can fix it for us? I’d do it if I knew one end of a computer from another, and would happily pay a (large!) monthly subscription just to have it back again. PLEASE, please, someone, fix it!
  140. David Vaudin

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 14:22 UTC using Internet Explorer 6.0 on Windows XP:

    re: comment above about get_iplayer having a somewhat crinkly i/f…it does, and I’m grateful to previous posters for pointing me at the commands
    get_iplayer>get_iplayer --pid=b00123xyz (that’s a ‘minus minus’, and the pid is the bbc code from iplayer you used with ipdl), or
    get_iplayer>get_iplayer -g nameofprogramme
    followed by
    get_iplayer>get_iplayer # (where # is the number, say 444, of the programme get_iplayer returned to you.

    a and b seem to download mp4s OK to the folder get_iplayer set up for you.

  141. Nan M

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 15:29 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    @neriah again
    Apologies for the error in my post above (the old pot and pan just jogged my elbow about it)
    What I meant to write instead of Paul’s iPlayer
    Downloader getting access directly to files the beeb makes available for the iplayer was, of course that it got access to files that the beeb so kindly makes available for the ipod etc.

    So much for the reasons – whatever, it’s still fnerked.
    Thanks beeb.
  142. Alianmac

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 18:39 UTC using Firefox 3.5.5 on Windows 7:

    Firstly, can I add my thanks to Paul for creating and maintaining the best method for downloading BBC Radio programs.

    Over the years I have tried all the the options listed here and a few others as well. None come close to the simplicity of use of iPDL.

    I hope that Paul can find a way to circumnavigate the lastest obstructions that the Beeb has erected.

    Secondly, I am getting pretty hacked off at the BBC and will willingly support some sort of campaign but at the moment I can’t think of anything that would be really effective. Suggestions anyone?

    The closest that I can get is that the BBC is preferring one commercial provider – Apple – over others, such as Creative (on the music player side) and Android (on the smartphone side). As such they may be breaking the conditions of their licence.

    If there are any lawyers out there, is there a basis for a legal challenge to the BBC on this basis?

    Even if there is, would we want to do this – with the risk that Beeb withdraws the iPod/iPhone service as a result, probably just as Paul finds a way to get iPDL to work again?
  143. Knackers

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 19:15 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Dear Folks,

    Maybe it would be helphful to the community if someone with the know-how could write a step-by-step guide to setting up and running the ‘get_iplayer’ application. This may reduce the frustration felt by all the previous users of ‘ipdl’.

  144. Leo

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 19:33 UTC using Firefox 3.0.19) on Mac OS X:

    I’m happy to report that for Mac, at least, Get iPlayer Automator IS now working again for radio programmes.

    Using it is easy enough.
    First, in Preferences, choose a destination for the downloads. And select “Add completed downloads to iTunes”
    1. Search for the name of the programme (‘Food Programme’, ‘Book of the Week’ or whatever)
    2. Select the particular episode you want and click on “Add to queue”
    3. Click green START button
    4. Wait a little while (or quite a long time) for the programme to download.
    5. Listen to the programme in iTunes

    I suspect that TV shows will take a long time to download.

    Hope this helps!
  145. JohnBoy

    Wrote at 2010-12-17 20:42 UTC using Firefox 3.6.12 on Windows Vista:

    A simple step by step guide for get_iplayer
    I know Paul doesn’t want this to become a forum for GIP but a lot of none techies (like myself) seem to be struggling with it.

    Install it

    1. Click on “all programs”
    2. Open up the get-iplayer folder”
    3. Click on the get_iplayer icon
    4. A small black window will open up
    It might say it is searching for something..
    let it do it’s thing
    5. Once it has “settled” down
    The last line in the window should read
    C:Program Filesget_iplayer>
    followed by a blinking cursor
    6.Next to the blinking cursor copy and paste the line below in..

    get_iplayer --type=tv eastenders

    (using eastenders as example)
    7. Press enter on you keyboard
    8. It should show “Matches” followed by info and dates of the episodes
    261 etc
    INFO 6 matching programmes
    followed by the..
    C:Program Filesget_iplayer>
    then a blinking cursor (again)
    10. You want to “get” an episode..
    so next to the blinking cursor
    copy and paste this line in in..

    get_iplayer --get put the number of the ep you want here

    then press enter on your keyboard
    it should download to the “iplayer recordings” folder on your desktop
  146. martinn

    Wrote at 2010-12-18 00:02 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Hi Paul,

    Just a brief note to say that while I can probably learn to live with get_iplayer, it will never take the place of your marvellous little program.

    If you can get it to work again, I’ll be delighted; if you can’t, then so long and thanks for all the fish.
  147. Fan

    Wrote at 2010-12-18 01:06 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows Vista:

    Hi Paul,
    Your links to get_iplayer on your project page and this page are somewhat out of date. They link to an unmaintained and broken fork. The link you have to the get_iplayer forum is for this fork: which is actively developed / distributed (and mostly works unlike the listed one). Just wanted to prevent confusion.
  148. soupdragon

    Wrote at 2010-12-18 12:16 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    For those having trouble with the get_iplayer CLI use the Web PVR manager instead, it opens a BBC iPlayer style webpage in your favourite browser and you can search for your fave shows via it’s GUI-
    – theres a link to a Windows build there.

    The only change I make is delete ffmpeg from it’s folder and copy it to the download folder instead – because it defaults to creating .aac audio and I want mp3 – then I use the CLI command-

    ffmpeg -i radioshow.flv -ab 320k radioshow.mp3

    to convert the FLV audio to 320kbps MP3 (I’m only interested in BBC radio shows.)
  149. Paul Battley

    Wrote at 2010-12-18 13:16 UTC using Chrome 10.0.609.0 on Linux:

    I’ve corrected the link to get_iplayer (thanks Fan), and I’ve fixed the formatting in JohnBoy’s instructions (the comment software changes hyphens to em dashes by default).
  150. Simon Morgan

    Wrote at 2010-12-18 13:44 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.224 on Windows XP:

    I would like to join the queue of people thanking Paul for his work. It has been a lifesaver to me and my family who are frequently overseas. Hopefully Paul will find a hack!

    In the meantime I note that BBC’s iPlayer has changed and you can now download a WMV file for mobile devices. I have tried this and then copied file to a different computer and lo and behold, the WMV file plays and there are no apparent warnings concerning how long the file is valid.

    How new is this and has anybody else tried it?
  151. Lee

    Wrote at 2010-12-18 15:09 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:


    Can you provide a specific link to a page with such a download link? I’ve checked my usual favourites and there’s no such thing.
  152. SteveA

    Wrote at 2010-12-18 17:13 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    Paul’s program was so useful – I used it everyday to get the old BBC7 programs from when I was a kid, eg Hancock, Navy Lark, etc, to put on to a CD so that I could play them in my car. Simon Morgan: could you please let me know step-by-step how you downloaded a WMV file from the BBC as I could not find how to do it as this seems to be the only way now. Thanks
  153. Annie, Lancashire

    Wrote at 2010-12-18 17:30 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows Vista:

    I regularly receive emails from Mark (B.A.D.) and the necessary links for downloading audio programmes which I believe has been made possible through your IPDL downloader/device. I am not a techie person so this has been invaluable to me – can listen when I like. This is all thanks to you. Would you please keep on with your good work. Many thanks.
  154. s ford

    Wrote at 2010-12-18 22:52 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.231 on Mac OS X:

    the mac prog iplayer downloader is working again, but doesn’t save radio shows to mp3 format but aac, a quick simple convert with max does the job …
  155. Richard J Trent

    Wrote at 2010-12-19 09:12 UTC using Firefox 3.5.15 on Mac OS X:

    Thanks again for a great program, shame that it takes this loss of service for us to vocally show our support and appreciation.

    Hoping that the community gets somewhere with resuming their practice of downloading BBC content – which we TV licence paying UK residents have of course funded and therefore feel a certain amount of ownership over.

    I find the online content DRM issues unbelievable, imagine the same restrictions applied to recording by Sky+ or VCRs and BBC content on those devices stopping working after a week or two weeks?
    There would be uproar.
    Yet treating the online download audience differently seems OK to do so?
  156. Richard J Trent

    Wrote at 2010-12-19 09:19 UTC using Firefox 3.5.15 on Mac OS X:

    Also, many thanks for the iPlayer Downloader update for Mac, tested with a few radio downloads and confirm the aac format.

    Thanks again
  157. Drew Hughes

    Wrote at 2010-12-19 09:46 UTC using Safari 533.18.5 on Mac OS X:

    Considering my licence money has paid for the creation of these BBC programmes in the first place I feel I have the right to choose when I want to watch them. If the BBC is concerned about piracy taking profit away from future Dvd sales – where is my return on my investment?
  158. Shez

    Wrote at 2010-12-19 13:43 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    Thank you so much for all the hassle-free programs I have been able to download and keep for my daughter. I have both series of Deadly 60 and she watches them over and over again.
    If somebody could help out in any way then please do so, sadly downloading using ipdl was about as technical as I got!

    I have noticed today, watching an old copy of “Life”, that the older version (the one that downloaded them as .mov files) was a better quality copy than the updated version, not a million miles from standard def on my TV.

    Fingers crossed for a solution, hopefully somebody out there will help out or take on the challenge for us all, until then I’ll have to download and convert using Daniusoft, not as good but at least I can keep stuff!
  159. Andy Parkhill

    Wrote at 2010-12-19 21:51 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    Just to add my thanks for the great tool you created, and which I have been using religiously to download radio programmes for the past few years. Many thanks!
  160. Tobasco

    Wrote at 2010-12-20 00:32 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Mac OS X:

    Thanks Paul for a great tool. It WILL be sadly missed.
  161. John Paul

    Wrote at 2010-12-20 01:22 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows XP:

    Please don’t give up!!!

    We pay licence fee, so why can’t we download and keep the programs?
  162. Steve D

    Wrote at 2010-12-20 10:53 UTC using Firefox on Windows 98:

    I am gutted to read these messages.
    I have used this marvellous software off and on for the past year or so.
    It was a real boon to busy people, allowing you to “harvest” enjoyable programmes for those moments when you know you will have time to watch. (Please note, BBC, this is invariably a good few weeks after transmission for many of us – who pay your wages and expect to see the results when we want.)

    Paul has been a lifesaver.
    I do hope a solution can be found soon, especially with all the Christmas goodies coming up – which I would really like to watch right through till Easter!
  163. Stankonia

    Wrote at 2010-12-20 15:23 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.224 on Windows XP:

    Paul I also wanted to say how very much I enjoyed your software. I appreciated your taking the initiative to develop something that has been so absolutely abundantly useful.

    You have created a tool that has brought value to many peoples lives and have done this in the truest spirit of altruism. All the best to you Paul, and if there is anything that can be done to return the favour I would be happy to assist.
  164. Giles

    Wrote at 2010-12-20 18:03 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    Paul, ipdl is the single most useful software program I have ever downloaded. Thank you for your perseverance and altruism.
  165. Simon Morgan

    Wrote at 2010-12-20 18:43 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.224 on Windows XP:

    I use the standard BBC iPlayer site. After locating program, the Download button lists options, one of which is for mobile devices.

    However, not all good news:(:( On further examination, even though I copied program to another laptop, it seems that you get just 7 days viewing so my earlier happiness has been dashed.
  166. Ben

    Wrote at 2010-12-20 20:19 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    i just managed to download a chris moyles radio show from the site it downloaded as an aac file but it wont load in to itunes even when i change it to an mp3 file. dose this mean your close to finding a way around this new security the beeb are putting up?
  167. Stel

    Wrote at 2010-12-21 01:28 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Windows 7:

    Your program’s cheered up many a tedious night- can’t possibly thank you enough for maintaining it for so long.
  168. JP

    Wrote at 2010-12-21 12:50 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.215 on Windows XP:

    Thanks Paul for this great piece of software that has liberated my son to watch documentaries (& Top Gear!) on his daily 1 hour round trip school bus journey.
    In terms of freeware alternatives for Windows (that aren’t a patch on IPDL in terms of their convenience), but offer an irksome stop gap. ‘Stream Transport’ will capture programs into FLV format and then ‘Handbrake’ seems to convert programs into M4V format suitable for IPOD viewing.
  169. Greg

    Wrote at 2010-12-22 12:30 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:


    My thanks at the end of this long stream of praise would seem redundant.

    You might like to know that we used your superb little piece of software to download Mr Tumble onto an ipod for our son (who has Downs Syndrome) to help him to learn Sign-along. This complements the programmes we’ve recorded on our Freeview Box, and the DVDs we have. Not sure why the BBC would object to this, but….

    Again, our thanks!
  170. jonnie

    Wrote at 2010-12-22 23:24 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.231 on Mac OS X:

    S ford, thanks so much for the max tip! I’ve been trying for ages to find something to convert the aac output from IPD 4.1!

    And Paul, dont give up!!! Good luck with the development!

    Thanks alot
  171. Dan Smith

    Wrote at 2010-12-23 11:40 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows Vista:

    It would be remiss not to add my thanks to the many.

    I’ve been using your software for several years and am extremely grateful for all the hard work you’ve put into it.

  172. Thomas Willson

    Wrote at 2010-12-23 19:36 UTC using Safari 533.18.5 on Mac OS X:

    For those on OS X, Get iPlayer Automator does still work. Just specify one of the modes other than iPhone in the preferences.
  173. Pete

    Wrote at 2010-12-23 19:50 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Mac OS X:

    Been using ipdl for years… gutted when it stopped working recently. Thanks for the update unfortunately I keep getting the message ‘flvstreamer has quit’. Keeping my fingers crossed that you will still work on your gorgeous little app. I hate using the BBC desktop app, it works my little macbook far too hard.
    Many many thanks again Paul for all the work you have done on this.
  174. Thomas Willson

    Wrote at 2010-12-23 20:21 UTC using Safari 533.18.5 on Mac OS X:

    Pete, please email me through the support form on my site so that I can work to resolve the issue.
  175. Cad

    Wrote at 2010-12-23 23:15 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Paul, this is just to add another thanks for your great work.
  176. Michael

    Wrote at 2010-12-23 23:35 UTC using Firefox 3.0.15 on Windows XP:

    Just to say many thanks for your work on the downloader. I’ve used it for years and its been a perfect, user friendly piece of kit. Its been much appreciated.

    I’m sad to see it go
  177. Nick

    Wrote at 2010-12-24 02:08 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    Hi Paul. Like everyone else, would like to thank you for your hard work and efforts maintaining your program. Just discovered (2am Friday 24/12/10) it’s not working and looking around for an alternative. Needing something simple, yours was ideal. I can’t see anything else coming close.

    I do hope that you manage to come up with an alternative. Take care and good luck whatever happens. Like everyone, I’m sad to see it go, too.

    All the best, Nick

    Wrote at 2010-12-24 10:40 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Mac OS X:

    Paul, your work has been fantastic. I’d just like to say. Thanks very much. Indeed.

    I’m so gutted by BBC’s action. Pointless action.
  179. SteveA

    Wrote at 2010-12-24 13:29 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    I was bereft after losing the ability to download the radio programs from my childhood, to be able to listen to them in my own time (shame on the BBC as I have paid my licence fee for 40 years). A friend of mine pointed me to this website

    It works and will download BBC7 radio programs as MP3 files. Highly recommended and the author is to be thanked, as does Paul for all of his past hard work.
  180. Diego

    Wrote at 2010-12-24 14:59 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Windows XP:

    Hi again, thanks for that last link to download radio shows as I’ve only been able to get, get_iplayer to download TV shows.

    So thanks again, and Merry Xmas everyone. :)
  181. redgoat

    Wrote at 2010-12-24 15:29 UTC using Firefox 3.0.19 on Windows XP:

    Thanks for all your efforts in keeping this valuable tool up to date. It has up until now allowed me the complete freedom to listen when and where I want.

    The BBC has shot self in the foot by breaking it. The people here on this forum who use “ipdl” are not bootleggers and hackers, they are their loyal listeners. Many of which myself included, the BBC will lose. Because I am not going back to non-portable ways of listening. Everything is on my iPOD now, so if the BBC can’t provide it I will go elsewhere for entertainment. We are always being told that the different forms of media (PRINT, SOUND & VISION) are converging. So if I can compare a paper magazine with a radio show, the BBC’s official iPLAYER says: “I can buy the magazine (via TV licence), but can’t take it out of the shop, and I have to put it back on the shelf when 7 days are up”. Well stuff that.

    Until this is debacle is resolved, which common sense dictates it eventually will be, there are some other methods that radio enthusiasts can look into, in particular the many DAB radio/MP3 recorders that are available. This provides an invisible method of recording/timeshifting radio programs like setting the PVR for TV. A very useful non commercial website on this topic:

    The hypocrisy about “file sharing” or “home taping” as it use to be called is breathtaking. No doubt the BBC will be in touch some time in the future with “radio enthusiasts” a.k.a. “ipdl users”, and “home tapers”, for help in recovering lost radio shows that they have managed to erase or lose. Much of RADIO7’s output consists of “handed back” radio shows from listeners’ collections. I don’t believe that the demise of ipdl is entirely the BBC’s fault however. The rights management authorities are ultimately responsible for this. These are the same people who tried to allow the law to prevent people from owning VHS recordings in the 1970’s and prevented authentic American Blues stars from performing in the UK in the 1950s because there were British musicians who could play just as well (!). They are an anachronism, and have tried over the years to keep things the way they were 50 years ago, preventing technologies which could have provided alternative streams of revenue for artists. Well the stable door is open and the horse has long gone. People will find their own way to listen to what they want and good luck to them. Like the VHS debate in the 1970s, the more people that disobey and ignore the rules, the more likely the rules will be deemed ridiculous and ungovernable. I’m really angry, someone has just turned my radio off.
  182. Connor

    Wrote at 2010-12-24 18:30 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.224 on Windows Vista:

    Thanks for everything you have done with ipdl, I used it all the time, I hope you can try and find away around the BBC’s silly changes so I don’t have to try to understand how to use Get_iPlayer.

    If anyone can explain to me how to even download a show with Get_iPlayer can you drop me an email at I need some help with it.

    Once again, thanks for everything Paul, you did a great job :)
  183. JohnBoy

    Wrote at 2010-12-24 22:24 UTC using Firefox 3.6.12 on Windows Vista:

    If you look through these comments i have left instructions on how to use GIP.

    Happy Xmas to everyone…
    (esp Paul)
  184. Andy Moore

    Wrote at 2010-12-25 14:14 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    Merry Christmas to all IPDL’ers :-), and thanks to Paul for everything – Have a great new year all
  185. Frances

    Wrote at 2010-12-25 23:31 UTC using Firefox 3.6 on Windows XP:

    I’m very sorry to read that iPlayer Downloader will no longer work.
    I join countless others in thanking you for your hard work and dedication to bring this programme to us in the first place, and wish you well for future endeavours.

    Thank you.
  186. LJ

    Wrote at 2010-12-26 00:32 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.224 on Windows 7:

    I’m trying to use get_iplayer, but every time I try any of the things listed on here (sorry to ask on here, but I cant seem to understand the “helpful” blogs and forums I find on google, I can barely use word!) I get a message saying:

    WARNING: Running the updater again to obtain plugins.
    ERROR: get_iplayer is not writable – aborting update (maybe a package manager was used to install get_iplayer?)

    Basically… HELP! I don’t know what any of this means!

    Sorry again to ask on here, but Paul your programme was so wonderful that even an idiot like me could use it and I am in no way really computer literate. I participate in a European Commission programme called Youth In Action through which I spend a lot of time volunteering in the Balkans, often in places without internet access, and I used IPDL both to keep me entertained on the journeys (Two weeks ago I spent 42 hours travelling to a remote place in the mountains of northern Macedonia) and using the programmes as a brilliant way of communicating British culture to people in those places. I have many Serbian friends who are extremely angry they can no longer look forward to watching episodes of Doctor Who next time I go!
  187. Mark

    Wrote at 2010-12-26 01:47 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows Vista:

    If anyone would like a simple step by step guide with pictures on how to set up the get_iplayer, email me via my blog {} and I’ll send you the instructions.
  188. brooksy

    Wrote at 2010-12-27 09:50 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.224 on Windows Vista:

    I would urge you not to give up, the programme is excellent – thank you
  189. M

    Wrote at 2010-12-27 13:51 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.224 on Linux:

    I’ve found your program to be excellent and very useful. Hope it can be fixed soon!
  190. Mark

    Wrote at 2010-12-27 14:27 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows Vista:

    If you can’t get get_iplayer, I have left a link at the bottom of the content page of my blog that gives step by step picture assisted instructions on how to set up get_iplayer.
  191. LOGiCALX

    Wrote at 2010-12-28 00:08 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    Link –

    Has worked for me now, just heard about this program 2 days ago!

    Installed +Updated on Perl and downloading TOP GEAR as we speak, tested in VLC player to see if it is actually downloading and it works great :)

    Saves me waiting for Torrents/Rapidshare etc Links :)

    (I hate using MCE with my TV CARD)

    Enjoy while it working people!
  192. Phil Brighton

    Wrote at 2010-12-28 13:18 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows 7:

    Hi Paul

    I would really like to thank you for this package that has changed my life. I am training for marathons and also do lots of long car journeys and being able to download and listen to my favourite radio programmes has got me through these hard times.

    If you ever consider rewriting ipdl and set up some sort of payment method I would pay into it to support your development time.

    This has been the one piece of software that I have used more than any.

  193. Ian

    Wrote at 2010-12-28 15:21 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows XP:

    Many thanks Paul for your elegant solution to a problem caused by the BBC.
    I will miss it and hope you are able to get it working again.
  194. Drew

    Wrote at 2010-12-29 02:03 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    Thomas Willson appears to have the solution!

    ‘Get iPlayer Automator’ uses the get_iplayer code & includes the required converters to re-encode Flash versions to H.264.

    It is pretty smooth, at least for video.

    Paul, check out his comments above, it may be worth pointing Mac users towards this app.
  195. Tony Bellows

    Wrote at 2010-12-29 12:16 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.224 on Windows XP:

    I’ve been using Radio Downloader since 10 December, and I think it is the best alternative, as it does not depend on cut/paste, just point and click.

    All the BBC radio programmes are available, but in alphabetic listings, or genre listings, so you have to have the BBC iPlayer listings to see what’s on. The “Subcribe” service is also useful when you want all of a Book of the Week etc, and can just set it up and forget it.

    The only drawback is in subscribing to subjects like In Our Time, when you MUST first remember to untick all the past episodes you don’t want – and in the case of that one, it goes all the way back to the 30 minute versions.

    It also allows favourites such as “Afternoon Play”, so you can look at current episodes quickly and decide to download them.

    For me, for ease of use, this is the best alternative.
  196. Dean.

    Wrote at 2010-12-29 17:45 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    Paul, I desperately hope you do not give up and you do find some way of fixing iPDL, it’s so brilliant! And i’ve been using it for so long and I’d just love to be able to use it again! Cheers all the same for all the work you’ve put in for us all. :)
  197. Mike

    Wrote at 2010-12-29 19:59 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows Vista:

    Wrote at 2010-12-29 19:23 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows Vista:


    I can only add my thanks for your work…...have just sat reading through all the many comments that people have left…..

    I have been using iPDL for such a long time and it has been a godsend to be able to download both TV and Radio so that I can view/listen when I get time…..

    It took me a few days of wondering why it had stopped working to get me back here…..

    I did spend most of last night trying to use some of the suggested solutions but gave up after an hour or two…..

    However I have just found something else that works that never even occured to me to try…..

    For a long time I have also been using a program called Internet Download Manager ( was only a few £’s to buy online ) but once installed and set up for whichever browser you are using it will prompt you to download any video or audio file that you are looking at…...including those on iplayer…..I have just tried it and it does work…...!!!!!!

    OK, it does download the files as .flv files but these can be easily converted or just viewed in Windows Movie Player…....( works on my laptop no probs )

    You have to actually click the the play button in iplayer to start the program you want then a small ‘Download this video’ button will appear… that and choose where to save the file…’s as simple as that…...I was going to post a small screen shot but I couldn’t work out how to do it…..( sorry I’m not a techy!!!! )

    I have used this software for a couple of years now for downloading stuff off the net and it’s always worked brilliantly…..

    Hopefully this will be useful alternative to anyone desperate to continue downloading from iplayer…..

    Best wishes to all, I hope those that have already posted on here get to hear of this as well…....


  198. D

    Wrote at 2010-12-30 21:16 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    I use hidownload or cooljah/blader to get the flv now. shame that the mp4 version stopped working. all it is doing is adding cpu time as i have to convert them to mp4 format. silly really that the bbc license fee also pays for restricting access to content. i also download a lot of paid content from the bbc from torrents as well as free content, before and after it stopped working, and will continue to do so, so the obsfucation hasn’t changed anything.

    good luck with implementing a fix, it was an awesome piece of ruby coding that i used almost every other day.
  199. Mark

    Wrote at 2010-12-31 08:26 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Mac OS X:

    Paul, you are magic! The new version is downloading now, as I speak.

    Thank you so much. Life here in Hanoi, will continuing to be interesting now that we can watch BBC!

    I hope everyone who uses it makes a donation. It is well worth £10 or so….!
  200. JohnBoy

    Wrote at 2010-12-31 09:05 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    What new version?????
  201. Mary Ann

    Wrote at 2010-12-31 21:23 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Windows XP:

    Mark – I can’t see details of any new version of the iPlayer program.

    Are you the Mark who runs the badindex website referred to above on 27 Dec, which requires payment from people to access files downloaded from the BBC?
  202. hobbit

    Wrote at 2011-01-01 09:11 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows XP:

    Could someone set up a web site where we can all join together in protest? Lobby our MP’s, ask for an investigation into the legality of what the BBC is doing, demand an investigation into the reasons for this interference with our rights and investigate the allegation (mine) that someone is getting a “backhander” for forcing people to buy iplayers, certs, etc.
    Also when trying to download an “allowed” download, they force an unnecessary microsoft Windows Media Player “update” on us that turns out to be a completely newer version, when our existing version or our player of choice would have played the content just as well (or better); – there is probably a payoff for “them” involved here as well !!.
  203. Tony

    Wrote at 2011-01-01 16:45 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    I bow to your superior hacker status, but I thought I’d mention this … just, just in case.
    Is the “Extract the client key from an iPhone or iPod Touch.” the iPod/Phone UDID?
    That’s what needs to be given to an App developer so they can license test apps to particular Testers.
    If so – you could allow people to enter their own UDID into IPDL?
    Have really appreciated the ipdl – especially while travelling.
  204. nick

    Wrote at 2011-01-01 21:31 UTC using Firefox 3.6.10 on Windows XP:

    Hope you manage to find a fix Paul.

    Trying out radio downloader as I write, seems ok,
    and will check get iplayer as mentioned in earlier posts.
    Also found another useful site whilst looking
    for a rob da bank show which was no longer available

  205. Amanda

    Wrote at 2011-01-02 01:07 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    I’ve tried using the Get iPlayer i did the copy/paste : get_iplayer—type=tv eastenders, but just kept getting the message : Can’t open perl script ‘’get_iplayer.pkl’’ No such file or directory found ? Can anybody tell me what i’m doing wrong ?
    Thank you
  206. nick

    Wrote at 2011-01-02 10:33 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:


    also forgot to mention to check out iplayerconverter

    Allows you to browse current iplayer program availability.
    Gives you the exact title of the program which is useful as you can find this in radio downloader ( via A-Z index.

    First impressions of radio downloader are good: downloads much faster than real time e.g. bagged a 2 hour essential mix in minutes, then does a conversion to mp3 which was also only a few mins at 128kbps. Will check out get iplayer for TV when I have time.

    Apparently it is a perl script so may have
    to dust of my old copy of programming perl by
    larry wall.

  207. nick

    Wrote at 2011-01-02 10:38 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Slightly off subject but…

    was looking into other ways to access iplayer e.g. on TV
    in lounge .

    Found a cheap 32” TV which allows direct access to iplayer, the
    cello, e.g. see

    But has a poor review:

    But this turned me on to the
    Sony BDPS370 Blu-ray Player
    only £99 at amazon which looks interesting.

    I know you can access iplayer via a wii or psp (not xbox without hacking).

    Does anyone else have any recommendations for accessing iplayer from
    the comfort of my armchair ?

    Perhaps best to hold fire and wait to see how youview pans out ?

  208. Alan

    Wrote at 2011-01-02 10:58 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    Loaded up get-iplayer fine using the excellent guidelines provided by Mark but keep getting the following “failed” messages when I try to record:

    failed to get iphone URL from site
    failed to open file
    failed to record

    Can anyone help?

    Cheers Alan
  209. Sid Bonkers

    Wrote at 2011-01-02 14:27 UTC using Firefox 3.6.8 on Windows Vista:

    Add my thanks to the list. Where there’s a will….........
  210. JohnBoy

    Wrote at 2011-01-02 15:40 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:


    Seems a bit to techie for me but uninstall and try these….
  211. Mac

    Wrote at 2011-01-02 22:06 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:


    Thank you very much for the time you have invested in this project to date.

    It couldn’t agree more that this is very short-sighted of the BBC. “Discouraging piracy”... haha!

    I have for many years enjoyed downloading programmes from BBC that are not available as podcasts, transferring them to my iPod (as MP3) and then listening to them in my own time.

    One of your previous posters pointed me towards Radio Downloader, which I will be using to do this from now, so all is not lost (for me, for the moment). But I just wanted to say THANK YOU for the effort you have put into this so far.
  212. Amanda

    Wrote at 2011-01-03 15:24 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Thanks @Johnboy i tried that but my pc couldn’t open either file. I hope the iPlayer downloader can be fixed and returns one day was so simple to use mean BBC i pay a license fee…:(
  213. LOGiCALX

    Wrote at 2011-01-03 20:22 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    Why are you lot still complaining, There’s a new version out and has been for ages and it worked fantastic!



    Installed +Updated on Perl and downloading TOP GEAR as we speak, tested in VLC player to see if it is actually downloading and it works great :)

    Enjoy while it working people!

    **Still working now got the Hugh+Oz show and all of topgear and EVEN FILMS DOWNLOAD!
  214. Amanda

    Wrote at 2011-01-03 23:41 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    @LOGiCALX Thank you, I downloaded from the link but it failed with message : Ftmeg failed send request error. I even tried without installing the Ftmeg message then was : send request error. Each way frozen my pc i had to restart manually. Doesn’t anyone have a working link and code for Windows XP…? Thank you
  215. RobinE

    Wrote at 2011-01-04 13:37 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    I wonder whether an alternative to iphone simulation is the “red button” service on FreeSat? I’m not sure whether a certificate is involved.
    I haven’t sniffed (yet) the TCP/IP traffic on my Humax box, but the last firmware upgrade was about a year ago, so nothing has changed recently. I have demounted the HDD and attach it to linux via eSata (I have the drive copied) and can inspect what’s there (if I can find the time). Any thoughts?
  216. Universal

    Wrote at 2011-01-04 17:35 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.224 on Linux:

    well there is that black box project that is extracting ssl keys from embed devices i am sure they have the ios devices
  217. Simon Heatn

    Wrote at 2011-01-05 01:14 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows XP:

    Please please please, don’t give up, life without this program is becoming unbearable!!!

  218. Tony

    Wrote at 2011-01-05 21:13 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows XP:

    internet download manager is the second best option….you can get the full hit from
  219. Tony

    Wrote at 2011-01-05 21:28 UTC using Internet Explorer 8.0 on Windows XP:

    sorry that should read
  220. Sunny Jim

    Wrote at 2011-01-06 22:01 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    With the necessary caveat that Paul does not want this to become a forum about get_iplayer, this is just to say that as of today, that too seems not to be working (it was just fine, albeit slow, until now). This seems confirmed in postings in the get_iplayer forum. So if you can’t get it to work, it’s probably not because you’re not tecchie enough; there seems to be a real problem there at the moment.

    But we live in hope! And all the best as ever, Paul.
  221. Andy Moore

    Wrote at 2011-01-07 12:33 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    yup, G_IP is blocked now too :-(
    Have a lousy 500k internet connection has meant I haven’t been able to watch any IPlayer content for about a year now, so downloading whilst at work and then taking it home was the only way to watch – nice one BBC!
  222. Andy Moore

    Wrote at 2011-01-07 12:40 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Audio still works!!
  223. Hari R

    Wrote at 2011-01-07 19:58 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.224 on Windows Vista:

    Thanks for the good times Paul. I never used to download iPlayer files but in November 2009 the Beeb broadcast a delightful programme about Oman, the country I grew up on BBC Radio 4’s Document. I wanted to obtain a copy of it and knew someone must have created an app just for that purpose. Yours was the first one I tried and couldn’t believe how simple and quick it was. I later became a loyal user and eventually the programme became a life saver when I found myself back in Oman last summer for the remaining half of the year. As the iPlayer was not accessible abroad, your programme was the only/cheapest way for me to watch my favourite shows. It took forever to download but I was just thankful for someone creating such an easy-to-use programme. It saddens me that this facility is not available any more but may I take this essay of an opportunity to thank you very, very much for all the good work you put in. Much, much appreciated!
  224. Jordan Thomas

    Wrote at 2011-01-07 21:12 UTC using Safari 6533.18.5 on Mac OS X:

    I also make a iPlayer downloader, based on Get iPlayer Automator, that works.

    Have a look at

    Jordan :)
  225. Radio1Addict

    Wrote at 2011-01-07 21:40 UTC using Firefox on Windows Vista:

    After the demise of Paul’s wonderful application, I have been using for the last month an “rtmpdump” based sniffer/FLV downloader to acquire the “flash audio” (i.e. mp4a inside an flv container) files for my favourite R1 shows; I had to convert them first into mp3s (free RealPlayer SP Converter worked nicely) & then tag them manually, before transferring them to my (non-Apple) portable player, to listen on the go or on my USB-enabled Hi-Fi system…
    As of 06/01/2011, as already reported, the BBC have broken “rtmpdump”: now my audio file begins to dl for 1min2secs, then connection is lost :-( . “rtmpdump” reports this ERROR: RTMP_ReadPacket, failed to read RTMP packet header.
    If I resume manually, download goes on for another ~ 1min, before it is interrupted anew!
    So, in order to obtain a 2hr show (avg file size 114MB) I have to go through this process 6-7 times! BTW, video files never dl completely, after the 2nd manual attempt to reconnect, connection with rtmp server is lost for good!
    It is now evident that the beeb have unleashed a holy war against all (mostly open source) software capable of dling their content; those savvy enough to use get_iplayer (I’m not one of them!) have reported that switching from “rtmpdump” back to “flvstreamer” counteracts the latest BBC intervention, however I fear it won’t be long before they’re after that app, too!
    I won’t be thanking again Paul for his past service, I have done so eloquently before, along with so many others, apologies to him for using his webspace…Still, it’d be nice to hear some recent words from him on the matter, is everything now finished for good for ipdl?
  226. KINDLE

    Wrote at 2011-01-07 22:48 UTC using Firefox 3.6.10 on Windows XP:

    F**k the BBC. They ask for £146 per year so they can muck us about? So they can give the Brainless women out there with no lives their weekly fix of Eastenders, Country File & Antiques Roadshow? Good riddants then. If they don’t want us visiting their website or Recommending their Service, then they can just slowly dwindle & wither away into the past like many of their programs. 1 day soon people arn’t going to pay their wages. And they will die a quick death. Tossers.
  227. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-07 23:47 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    Don’t panic!
    1. Download:
    2. Put flvstreamer_win32_latest.exe in you C:Program Filesget_iplayer folder
    3. Change line in options file in C:ProgramData\get_iplayer (0r C:Documents and SettingsAll Users\get_iplayer in XP) to read:
    flvstreamer .flvstreamer_win32_latest.exe
    It should then work, although you do get a few error messages in the page.
  228. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-07 23:51 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    unfortunately a few”back slashes” didn’t make it into the message. the most inportant being after the full stop and before flvstreamer_win32_latest.exe in the options file. editor seems to like removing them!
  229. Duncan Hill

    Wrote at 2011-01-08 10:02 UTC using Firefox 3.0.19 on Windows XP:

    @Fat Freddy, steps 1 and 2 I can do, but 3 seems impossible. I cannot find an “options file” (whatever this is) in the C:\Documents and Settings\User\.get_iplayer directory.
  230. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-08 10:20 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    In XP there is an options file in:
    C:/Documents and Settings/All Users/get_iplayer
    This needs to read:
    flvstreamer ./flvstreamer_win32_latest.exe
    This file tells get_iplayer which dump to use. Change all forward slashes to back slashes, the web page helpfully deletes all back slashes from my comments!
  231. Duncan Hill

    Wrote at 2011-01-08 12:00 UTC using Firefox 3.0.19 on Windows XP:

    @Fat Freddy, many thanks! In fact I was looking in “User” instead of “All Users”, so it was my mistake! I edited the line, and now Get Iplayer works fine again, altho’ it stops and resumes downloading very often, but it’s not a problem.

    Just wondering if you know of any way to make it save files as Xvid or Divx .avi files instead of MP4? It’s just that my tv setup doesn’t read MP4 files, and thus I must convert them myself with another computer programme (that takes hours and hours because it can only do 2 frames a second for some reason!). As I understand that Get Iplayer already converts from FLV to MP4 (H264) and uses FFMPEG, so I would assume there is some option that can be changed somewhere else?

    [BTW, For backslashes, you must type them twice instead of once.]
  232. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-08 12:27 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    Sorry Duncan, no ideas about conversion. I use an old PC plugged directly into my tv’s vga to play files, so mp4 not a problem.
    Thanks for the backslash tip ;)
  233. Stankoni

    Wrote at 2011-01-08 14:50 UTC using Chrome 10.0.612.3 on Mac OS X:

    Just a point of information. iPlayer plus works great, so thanks very much Jordon!!

    Has anyone noticed the following…that there are less BBC programs available to download in general. A lot of new shows have the download option disabled even if one were to use the BBC supported iplayer download.
    It seems as though the BBC is moving away and therefore reducing the number of shows available for download by ANY means.
  234. Matt

    Wrote at 2011-01-08 21:42 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    Jordan –

    Can’t get iplayer plus to work…error message: failed to get iphone url from iplayer site. Help please?
  235. Andy Moore

    Wrote at 2011-01-08 23:49 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    Fat Freddy – Used your flvstreamer ./flvstreamer_win32_latest.exe fix but it’s downloaded a .flv file, not MP4 – is that right?
  236. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 00:20 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    Hi Andy, it’s not my flvstreamer :) but the work of some very clever people. I get mp4 output. Make sure you change the line in options to:
    flvstreamer .\flvstreamer_win32_latest.exe
    Note it must be a backslash as it was origionally. flvstreamer does create a few errors while downloading but it gets there in the end.
  237. Junius83

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 03:36 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.224 on Windows Vista:

    For all those radio downloaders, i just found a alternative that actually works.

    Simple install and basically idiot proof program to use.
  238. ping

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 08:02 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    i dont get how to do this…

    Make sure you change the line in options to:
    flvstreamer .flvstreamer_win32_latest.exe

  239. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 10:54 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    To get get_iplayer working if you find RTMP dump stops working:
    1. Download:
    2. Put flvstreamer_win32_latest.exe in you C:\Program Files\get_iplayer folder
    3. Change line in options file in C:\ProgramData\get_iplayer (0r C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\get_iplayer in XP) to read:
    flvstreamer .\flvstreamer_win32_latest.exe
    It should then work, although you do get a few error messages and resumes in the page.
  240. Andy Moore

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 10:55 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    I have G_I installed in c/program files (x86) /G_I

    In c/program data/G_I i have an options ‘file’ (no suffixes) which, when opened with notepad contains

    lame .lamex86lame.exe
    mplayer .mplayerMPlayer-1.0rc2mplayer.exe
    atomicparsley .atomicparsleyatomicparsley.exe
    output C:downs
    flvstreamer .rtmpdump-2.2drtmpdump.exe
    ffmpeg .ffmpegbinffmpeg.exe
    vlc .vlcvlc.exe
    mmsnothread 1
    nopurge 1

    In C:/users/me/ I have a file called .get_iplayer, but that’s got nothing in it called options – I have not specified any options in the ‘DOS’ side of G_I only during the install

    From a fresh install, I can’t download any video.

    If I change the program data options from

    flvstreamer .rtmpdump-2.2drtmpdump.exe


    flvstreamer .flvstreamer_win32_latest.exe (dot backslash)

    then G_I downloads FLV files

    So, downloading ‘93’ as a test, and the file being downloaded is

    Is there a forum we can discuss this on?
  241. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 11:27 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    Hi Andy
    did you completes parts 1 & 2 in my post
    as I get mp4 in W7

    As Janius83 says above:
    works perfectly for radio only
  242. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 11:29 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    I’m using get_iplayer – Web PVR Manager
  243. Andy Moore

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 12:25 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    FF – I’ve got it sorted now, uninstalled and started from new and it’s d/l that Casualty episode (no idea why I tried Casualty but there ya go)

    Must have been something wrong with the original options I guess (the paste was from the new options)

    Thanks again for pointing the way!
  244. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 12:37 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    There’s a load of clever people here who have worked out a better solution:

    you need to get the latest
    delete .swfinfo
    get rtmpdump2.3

    and everything working again
  245. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 12:41 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    and tell options to use rtmpdump2.3
  246. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 13:11 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    If you find get_iplayer stops working with RTMPdump errors:

    1. download get_iplayer-f17e8cc.tar.gz:

    replace (in C:\Program Files\get_iplayer) with the get_iplayer file in the get_iplayer-f17e8cc folder in the archive. make sure you add .pl to the end of the new file.

    2. download

    extract folder to C:\Program Files\get_iplayer

    3. delete .swfinfo file from C drive, do a search it seems to be in different places depending on OS

    4. Change line options file in C:\ProgramData\get_iplayer (0r C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\get_iplayer in XP) to read:

    flvstreamer .\rtmpdump-2.3\rtmpdump.exe

    Hopefully get_iplayer will get updates soon to do all this automatically!
  247. Andy Moore

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 16:43 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    Ok, new problem – I just downloaded The Weather Man thinking it was The Anchorman – is there a cure for this?
    Nicholas Cage really needs to cheer up
  248. ping

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 19:51 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    3. Change line in options file in C:ProgramDataget_iplayer (0r C:Documents and SettingsAll Usersget_iplayer in XP) to read:
    flvstreamer .flvstreamer_win32_latest.exe

    how? and where do i this? sorry but i dont understand the “change the line in options file…”

    this is confusing me.
  249. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 20:19 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    options file is a text file, so just open in notepad.

    if you can’t find it, make sure you have “show hidden files and folders” selected in tools > folder options > view tab
  250. JohnBoy

    Wrote at 2011-01-09 22:01 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    @Fat Freddy
    followed this to the letter…
    opened the options file in notepad
    flvstreamer .rtmpdump-2.2drtmpdump.exe
    and replaced it with
    flvstreamer .rtmpdump-2.3rtmpdump.exe

    When i try to save it in notepad says..

    Cannot create C: ProgramData get_iplayer options file.
    Make sure that the path and file name are correct
  251. ping

    Wrote at 2011-01-10 01:12 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    hey guys i finally worked out with the extra info! many thank get_iplayer works again! for now!! :)
  252. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-10 09:21 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    Try turning off User Account Control (UAC) or save options to your desktop and then copy it across from there. Rename options to options.old first.
  253. Andy

    Wrote at 2011-01-10 12:42 UTC using Chrome 9.0.597.44 on Windows XP:

    Just to add my tuppenth worth.

    IPDL was/is a fantastic product, one I used whenever get_iplayer wouldn’t work…

    Now get_iplayer doesn’t seem to be working for TV shows at all, although Radio is still working…

    Some at get_iplayer are waiting for to fix IPDL so we can use the iphone mode of get_iplayer again…
  254. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-10 13:00 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    Andy, see my post above to get it working again
  255. Jordan Thomas

    Wrote at 2011-01-10 16:55 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    TO MATT—Sorry for long reply, been busy over New Year.

    About error message: failed to get iphone url from iplayer site.

    This is probably because the TV Show you want is not on the mobile iPlayer site.

    However, you can download it in HD, Very High, High… etc..

    1. Click through ‘Apple menu > Preferences > Then click on the Formats tab

    2. You see the two boxes? The top one is a list of Formats for downloading TV Shows. Basically iPlayer+ tries to download the TV Show in the Format you have at the top of this list. When it can’t, (because of not being on iPlayer iphone site for example), it tries the second format in the list, and so on.

    3. You can add formats to the list with the + and – buttons underneath the top box. To change the formats, click on the Up and Down arrows on the right side of each format.

    4. I recommend adding all of the formats available, so when one doesn’t work (e.g. iPhone format) you have a backup.

    So thats…. “Flash – HD”, “Flash – Very High”, “Flash – High”, “Flash – Standard”, “Flash – Normal”, “Flash – Low” and “iPhone”

    This is the same for Radio Shows in the box underneath.

    If you have any questions don’t hesitate to ask.

    Jordan :) (P.S. iPlayer+ is now available on Bodega! The best alternative to the app store)
  256. Steve

    Wrote at 2011-01-10 22:14 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    ”... type human in the Bot check field.”? Paul, you should get us to type “this isn’t a get_iplayer support comment”, maybe in capitals. Or maybe just accept an honoured place in the community of people who are fed up with the Beeb’s obstreperousness, and check out the get_iplayer fixes people post for useful bits of code ;)
    Seriously, and as another (red-faced) get_iplayer user, thanks Fat Freddy! – As noted elsewhere, flvstreamer ‘sort of’ made it work, but in my case updating rtmpdump to 2.3 and using the latest Perl script has fixed it for now. If Andy’s comment about using IPDL when get_iplayer didn’t work is right, though – sounds good, I’ll add to the general hope that Paul can sort out … well, whatever BS the BBC are up to now, so I can try it. The more programs there are in circulation the better the chances of keeping those downloads coming.
    For me the irony is that I wouldn’t bother downloading at all but for the ‘improvement’ they made to the iPlayer itself about a year ago, when it suddenly started hammering my processor and giving ‘slideshow video’. It used to work just fine, Auntie.
    Oh, and re irony I’ll second that tip about torrenting. First thing I tried when the direct d/l failed, it plugged straight in, and took about the same time to deliver a higher def copy than I usually bother with. Watched, scrubbed, just as usual (apart from the better picture – nice own goal there). The BBC keeps wasting its (audience’s) money on trying to shut the stable door, apparently not realising that there are – unavoidably – clones of their horse racing round the world within minutes of its first public appearance.
  257. Tim

    Wrote at 2011-01-12 00:08 UTC using Firefox 3.6.8 on Windows XP:

    Hello Paul. I used your idownloader to record the Daily Politics whenever there was a good debate or point/feature. Your idownloader was so quick and convenient. I agree completely with your notion that the BBC is a public broadcaster increasingly using commercial restrictions with regards to its output.

    A rock and a hard place? I think the BBC is a fantastic organisation but it infuriates me so much. Finally, thank you for allowing me to use your idownloader for the past few years. The other downloader you mention I found to complicated and have not been able to get it to work. Yours was simplistic beauty. Regards, Tim.
  258. Bibbleycheese

    Wrote at 2011-01-12 16:19 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.224 on Windows 7:

    Well done Fat Freddy – your advice on the rtmpdump-2.3 worked a treat and it’s downloading tv once again.
    But… the downloaded files won’t sync to the ipod touch, even though they play on itunes.
    What am I doing wrong here?
    Any suggestions?
  259. Fat Freddy

    Wrote at 2011-01-12 21:00 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    Bibbleycheese I think the latest version has fixed the download problems:

    Try that
  260. Sunny Jim

    Wrote at 2011-01-13 12:24 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    @ Fat Freddy: yes indeed! I gave up on trying to patch the previous version but all is now well. Phew! best news so far this year.
  261. adrian

    Wrote at 2011-01-14 10:11 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    Just belatedly echoing all the support for Paul’s hard work over the years. I mostly only used IPDL for 6Music programmes, so I’m managing ok with Get iPlayer Automator (can’t be arsed with the CLI versions… I need convenience!) but I miss the old IPDL interface.

    One thing a lot of people have said is “I pay my licence fee, why can’t I download this stuff?” and there’s a valid point in there. However, what you pay your licence fee for is to use the facilities under the terms & conditions. Don’t blame the BBC for not being able to (or wanting to) secure perpetual licensing for every copyright holder involved in their programmes. Mind you, when they use the “piracy” argument to justify the system, that’s bollocks, as we all know :)
  262. Andy Moore

    Wrote at 2011-01-15 12:31 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:


    If it’s ever needed, I’ve opened up an old forum to use,
    There’s nothing else on there, feel free to use it if necessary :-)
  263. JohnBoy

    Wrote at 2011-01-15 15:41 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows Vista:

    @Andy Moore

    Great idea Andy!
    Just registered.
  264. Ned

    Wrote at 2011-01-15 15:47 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:


    Many thanks for your application!

    It’s been so frustrating being unable to download from iPlayer, and now it’s finally possible again :)
  265. jc2011

    Wrote at 2011-01-15 20:52 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.237 on Windows Vista:

    oh no!! I loved the ipdl because it was so simple to use and i’m something of a technophobe… get iplayer won’t work for me, even after my brother (who’s slightly more able than me) tried…. and i’ve only been able to find mac versions :-(

    Does anyone know whether, if i download the ‘for windows media player’ version which is wmv and then convert this into mp4/flv it will work or will it just delete after the allotted time? Or is that a stupid question….

  266. Peter

    Wrote at 2011-01-16 15:26 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Many thanks Paul for your excellent iPdl, I have used it many times. Please continue with the ‘research’, your supporters are with you !
    In the meantime, I use StreamTransport

    Just dump the url of the iPlayer tv prog that you want into StreamTransport & away you go !
  267. Radio1Addict

    Wrote at 2011-01-17 02:20 UTC using Firefox on Windows Vista:

    @ jc2011
    Quote: “Does anyone know whether, if i download the ‘for windows media player’ version which is wmv and then convert this into mp4/flv it will work or will it just delete after the allotted time?”

    Hello JC…this version you mention is a WMDRM protected wmv file, with dimensions 720×404, aspect ratio 16:9 & constant video bitrate 1250kbps.
    It needs to download a licence in order to play (only in PCs & only with WMP 10/11/12); if it obtains the licence successfully, it can stay unplayed on your HD for a maximum of 30days, but if opened you have up to 7 days to complete viewing. After that, the file just won’t play & you have to delete it manually.
    DRM protected files won’t convert to other formats with normal tools…If you google this, you’ll find that there exist payware applications that can perform a lossy conversion of the DRMed file to a desired format (e.g. avi/mp4), this conversion has to take place while the licence for the DRMed wmv file is still valid…The end file is DRM-free, will play freely in any suitable media player, won’t expire/auto-delete & can be transferred to other PCs (for the more adventurous, I believe that one, if (s)he
    perseveres, can still find in the depths of the internet some lossless DRM removing tools, these require special OS/WMP installations & some expertise…). Actually, lossless/lossy removal of DRM is a very touchy subject, it is in strict violation of copyright laws & against the wishes of the content providers, BBC & Micro$oft; I am not in any way promoting it, just stating some facts in direct response to your query…
  268. Adrian

    Wrote at 2011-01-18 09:23 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    I have tried both I player downloader automator and iplayer + and both seem able to access a program but manage to only download 3 – 6 mins before restarting the download which it may try 2 or 3 times Anyone know the answer to this ?
  269. Tez B

    Wrote at 2011-01-18 20:44 UTC using Firefox 4.0b9 on Mac OS X:

    Just an update for info of any interested Mac users: Get iPlayer Automator

    is (at least at time of writing) still functional, at least after a fashion.

    As some other posters have noted, after the first few minutes it tells you the download has failed—but if you just reselect the item in the Download Queue panel and hit ‘Start’ again it picks up where it left off. You may have to do this several times (e.g. at least half a dozen times while retrieving a 60-minute TV programme) but I still find it perfectly workable.
  270. DBT

    Wrote at 2011-01-20 22:55 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.237 on Windows 7:

    What a shame. This now means I will use iPlayer less…
    Great work.
  271. john

    Wrote at 2011-01-22 16:20 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Linux:

    Dude. Here is all that you need Download Orbit Rich Media Downloaderownload social video,music, streaming media, rtmp and more…Pandora,IMEEM,YouTube,Yahoo,Myspace,Dailymo tion,RapidShare…

    Make sure it is running before you load your iplayer show.

    Then right click its taskbar button and choose grab. the rest is pretty obvious.

    And it goes into flv stragight away. Terrific piece of freeware. Enjoy
  272. jc2011

    Wrote at 2011-01-22 19:50 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.237 on Windows Vista:


    Quote: “Actually, lossless/lossy removal of DRM is a very touchy subject, it is in strict violation of copyright laws & against the wishes of the content providers, BBC & Micro$oft; I am not in any way promoting it, just stating some facts in direct response to your query…”

    Thanks! That’s really interested, from a purely intellectual standpoint obviously ;-)
  273. soupdragon

    Wrote at 2011-01-23 23:39 UTC using Firefox 3.5.16 on Windows 7:

    There is no tool to remove DRM protection from iPlayer files probably because there isn’t a big enough demand for it, and most of the tools out there that claim to make DRM free conversions do nothing more than record whats being played on the desktop in realtime!
  274. JulesLt

    Wrote at 2011-01-25 18:47 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    To be fair to the BBC, they are pretty much obliged by the licensing deals they have with the program makers to implement DRM mechanisms where they exist – since the change to buying in independent productions they no longer own a lot of the copyrights – your licence fee is going on limited broadcast rights.

    (I suspect this also explains the increasing number of programs not appearing on iPlayer in any way. Presumably it’s being explicitly excluded from contracts).

    While iOS lacked an effective way of locking down the H264 streams, there was a nice back door. Now that one has been implemented, the BBC can’t choose to ignore it, without it being deliberate, rather than a happy consequence of the Apple/Adobe Flash bunfight.

    I doubt they particularly care about piracy (they know how quickly things are torrented, and of course they have a nice ‘business model’) – but they have to pay lip service.

    (Although they could at least only implement it where they need to – there’s a lot of topical programming that never gets repeated).

    And yes, I agree it’s a shame – one of my favourite / most useful programs. PVR style solutions that involve capturing programs as they play are no substitute, and the iPlayer desktop app even worse.
  275. snori

    Wrote at 2011-01-25 20:05 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Paul – thanks for ipdl & hope you can find a way round the present blockage. Shame on BBC – ipdl was brilliant for d/l radio progs to mp3 player or listening to just a part of a program that you missed. Why do big (tax payer funded) UK orgs like Ordnance Survey & BBC have to be such luddites – the Aussies, Canadians, & USA are much more open with publicly funded “data”.
  276. Special-K

    Wrote at 2011-01-26 14:52 UTC using Firefox 3.0.19 on Windows XP:

    Talk of radio being removed from iPlayer due to BBC cutbacks…

    Suggestion is you will be directed to the Radio Portal or possibily the new YouView service will include it

    Why don’t they just leave things alone?
  277. Snippy

    Wrote at 2011-01-26 17:35 UTC using Chrome 8.0.552.237 on Windows Vista:

    For Debian Linux Distros….check this out.

    A nice GUI for get_iplayer
  278. Blacklung The Terrible

    Wrote at 2011-01-27 19:27 UTC using Firefox 3.6 on Windows XP:

    “What a shame. This now means I will use iPlayer less…”

    Heheh – and pirate bay more, heheheheheh

    O Come all me hearties
    joyful and triumphant
    come ye, oh come ye,
    to pirate bay
    come and download them
    view them and archive them
    o come let us download them
    o come let us download them

  279. soupdragon

    Wrote at 2011-01-29 17:49 UTC using Firefox 3.5.16 on Windows 7:

    How many millions did the beeb spend on developing DRM for the iPlayer? Thats more than lip service in my book. What really bugs me is people have been freely recording TV programmes with their VCR’s for 20+ and theres never been a murmur of complaint from the Beeb, but when online content comes along suddenly they get all proprietorial? What gives? Torrents are fine for popular shows but what about the rest?
  280. Angela Slaney

    Wrote at 2011-02-01 22:37 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Linux:

    At home in the UK I have a Kathrein satellite receiver (Linux based) that records Freesat to an external hard drive. It will record radio and tv channels. It saves files to a ’.trp’ file extension that VLC will happily play on any Linux machine. I take the hard drive when I go travelling and plug it in to my netbook to watch what I want, where I want.

    The point of me telling you this? Well, it is pretty obvious the BBC are really pissing in the wind. Any free to air stuff, from any broadcaster, can be recorded in the highest quality (including HD), and shared via a torrent if so minded.

    Just to clarify; there is no need to subscribe to Sky or use a BBC sponsored, and hampered Freesat box to record satellite off-air! Just buy a non-Sky and non-official-Freesat satellite receiver. Don’t expect Dixons or Currys to have them; they can be bought in the UK from satellite specialists.

    So BBC it seems like a whole load of effort just to piss on your customers.

    The anarchistic streak I find within me screams that the iplayer-dl author should not just roll over and have his tummy tickled by Auntie Beeb!
  281. Paul Steel

    Wrote at 2011-02-07 11:21 UTC using Chrome 9.0.597.86 on Windows 7:


    Does this help at all.?
  282. Alan

    Wrote at 2011-02-07 11:40 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows XP:

    > Extract the client key from an iPhone or iPod Touch.

    I think that it is possible to do this in linux. You need libimobiledevice and ifuse installed then you can mount the device and

    $ ideviceinfo

    should give you the information that you need.

  283. Linda Dotson

    Wrote at 2011-02-07 22:49 UTC using Internet Explorer 9.0 on Windows Vista:

    I apologize for being so late with my comments. I am a 61 year old grandmother who doesn’t totally understand technical intricacies. For several years, the website has been a treasure in my life. I live in a rural part of Oregon in the United States where the economy has ravaged the job market and the frills of life have become a bit “few and far between”. One HUGE bright spot in the great open spaces here in my otherwise humdrum life has been listening to the wonderful dramas that allow my mind to find peace and relaxation in the fictional pursuits of great sleuths like Sherlock Holmes, enjoy the dramas that carry me away to Great Britain, Europe, India and all over the world. When I can’t sleep at night or when I make the 60 mile drive into the closest town for my part-time job, I enjoy such great adventures that give me a sense of joy. So—I’m late with my comment—but no less grateful for what your downloader has meant to my life. Thank you.
  284. Andy

    Wrote at 2011-02-08 22:34 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:


    Thanks for all your work and updates, shame on you BBC….

  285. steve H

    Wrote at 2011-02-09 17:33 UTC using Chrome 9.0.597.84 on Windows Vista:

    cant believe the bbc, ipdl was perfect for watching programs offline.

    so is there another way i can download tv progs or radio progs from iplayer? i have a windows based pc.
  286. Mike Dufour

    Wrote at 2011-02-10 13:27 UTC using Chrome 9.0.597.94 on Windows 7:

    @steve H
    Get_iplayer for TV/Radio and Radio Downloader for radio.
    Regards, Mike.
  287. Pete

    Wrote at 2011-02-11 13:12 UTC using Internet Explorer 6.0 on Windows XP:

    Ipdl was the best…but in it’s absence I am using GetFLV and this is working quite well for me. It’s not free software but it does the job…even works on and 4OD too. The files arrive as FLVs but the GetFLV software has a converter which can give you whatever output you need.
  288. Patrick

    Wrote at 2011-02-12 19:47 UTC using Internet Explorer 7.0 on Windows XP:

    I tired Get FLV trial but it could not be used with 4OD where you need to check the disclaimer if over 16 (or 18) to view some programmes – the Get FLV interface used a frame and it was impossible to scroll to click the required check box with their interface.
    I emailed them but they didn’t even reply so not impressed with their support.
  289. Chris l

    Wrote at 2011-02-13 12:23 UTC using Chrome 9.0.597.98 on Windows XP:

    Paul I know you heard this before but you little program bought great joy to Hundreds. It did no harm to the Beeb or anyone else as far as I can see .

    I would also like to say that get Flv is good but expensive .

    Anyways up Thanks Again for your time and trouble .

    Chris L
  290. Knackers

    Wrote at 2011-02-15 21:22 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Dear Folks,
    I’ve been using the windows install of ‘get_iplayer’ to watch and download streaming BBC TV programmes. But, just recently it stopped working and I now receive the following message in the command line window; “Your version of flvstreamer/rtmpdump does not support SWF verification – rtmpdump /flvstreamer 1.8 or later is required – please upgrade”?
    I am sure that I’ve implemented rtmpdump v2.3.
    Would anybody be able to assist me with this quandry please?
  291. Mike Dufour

    Wrote at 2011-02-16 08:15 UTC using Chrome 9.0.597.98 on Windows 7:

    As well as uninstalling Get_iplayer and re-installing you ned to delete .swfinfo. Just click on Start and type in the search box, right click on the .swfinfo file and then delete.
  292. Sianeira

    Wrote at 2011-02-17 01:28 UTC using Firefox 3.6 on Windows XP:

    Sorry to read that iPlayer Downloader no longer works, and the reasons for it. Like many others I hope you will one day be able to write another working version; meanwhile I thank you for what you have given us thus far.
  293. Brian

    Wrote at 2011-02-18 09:25 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows XP:

    Great program Paul,

    Have downloaded many programs using your down loader,

    You could look on newsgroups for programs that have been saved, I found the Great British railway journeys-series2, on a news group saved as *.rar files, you have to use par2 to check them and use winrar to join all the parts together, though, I’m lucky that my isp supports newsgroups, I use Grablt newsreader so they can be downloaded for free, but they are only available for a week unless you sign up to a dedicated newserver that can keep them available for over a year or more
  294. Alfred

    Wrote at 2011-02-20 17:25 UTC using Firefox 3.6.13 on Windows 7:

    Paul you were a legend and i must say now i appreciate what you have done for all of us please venture deeper to go for other projects and i hope you all the best in the future.
  295. SteveC

    Wrote at 2011-02-22 07:28 UTC using Safari 533.19.4 on Mac OS X:

    I’ve been using iPlayer Downloader just fine for radio programmes, even this week (late February 2011). It downloads aac files, which I then convert using Switch ( – a very straightforward process.

    Many thanks, Paul, for having come up with such a great solution!
  296. briwal

    Wrote at 2011-02-27 15:45 UTC using Chrome 9.0.597.98 on Windows Vista:

    Try FreeRapid Downloader (open source) at
    It will download BBC iPlayer and also ITV Player in high quality FLV format. Maybe you could write a GUI Paul.
  297. Tez B

    Wrote at 2011-03-01 01:55 UTC using Firefox 4.0b12 on Mac OS X:

    Update on my previous post: after struggling for the first week or two after the BBC changes at the end of last year, Get iPlayer Automator (v1.1.12)—downloadable from—has been performing just fine on my Mac for a few weeks now (fingers crossed!). Putting a perfectly pleasant GUI on the get_iplayer script, it delivers very decent files in mp4 format & works with OS X 10.5 onward. Incidentally, iPlayer Downloader, which one or two earlier posters recommended, won’t work at all on my system.
  298. jdb

    Wrote at 2011-03-02 21:33 UTC using Firefox 3.6.14 on Windows XP:

    Thanks, briwal.
    FreeRapid Downloader works great to download from the BBC iPlayer.
  299. Oradis

    Wrote at 2011-03-03 20:39 UTC using Firefox 3.6.14 on Windows Vista:

    What are your thoughts on the way ahead Paul??
  300. William Old

    Wrote at 2011-03-10 01:49 UTC using Unknown browser on Unknown OS:

    An appalling and short-sighted step by the BBC… which will manage to stagger into oblivion despite the high quality of its output – that’s the biggest irony.

    Thank you for your work on this, and who knows… maybe we can persuade you to at least think about continuing to develop this excellent product?
  301. Paul

    Wrote at 2011-03-23 15:41 UTC using Firefox 3.6.15 on Mac OS X:

    Thanks for all the pleasure you have given us, Paul.
    Hope the shortsighted BBC changes. Please carry on the good work.

    I read what people say about FreeRaid Downloader. I wonder if anyone can describe how to use it step by step. Thanks.
  302. AP

    Wrote at 2011-03-29 20:10 UTC using Firefox 3.6.16 on Windows XP:

    For those eastenders fans that can’t get access to iplayer outside UK I found the following site which seems to be very reliable and up-to-date with link for downloading the latest episodes!

    figured it might be useful to some!
  303. Benjamin Maggs

    Wrote at 2011-03-30 21:14 UTC using Chrome 10.0.648.151 on Windows 7:

    Thanks for your hard work Paul, ipdl gave me faithful service for years and I loved it. All the best for the future!
  304. Benedict

    Wrote at 2011-04-12 14:12 UTC using Internet Explorer 9.0 on Windows 7:

    you could try to extract the ipod certificates using iphone boot extractor. You can look throught all the opperating files and you might find the certificate(s). If not, you could always jailbreak a iphone and manualy, using another program look through the opperating code and you might find it. Whatever you do, don’t give up.
  305. Paul

    Wrote at 2011-04-21 09:32 UTC using Chrome 11.0.696.50 on Windows 7:

    Does this help at all? All gobbledygook to me:-)
  306. John

    Wrote at 2011-05-01 09:13 UTC using Firefox 4.0.1 on Windows XP:

    Can’t you update it to use the Wii feed. That uses H264 –
  307. Peter

    Wrote at 2011-06-02 19:55 UTC using Firefox 4.0 on Windows 7:

    So sorry that this fantastic little program has been scuppered by the miserable BBC, we licence payers are doing nothing wrong in wanting to watch BBC programs when it’s best suitable to us and I am disgusted by the beebs actions.
    Thank you for all your work in the past I have used ipdl for a long time and it has been brilliant, I am so disappointed like everyone else that it has had to stop.

    Best wishes Paul and thank you again.

  308. Ollie

    Wrote at 2011-07-15 07:25 UTC using Chrome 10.0.648.204 on Mac OS X:

    For anyone looking for an alternative to download radio and tv from iplayer try this:
  309. Ollie

    Wrote at 2011-07-15 07:38 UTC using Chrome 10.0.648.204 on Mac OS X:

    After opening the iplayer+ app, go to preferences and add radio to the available feeds. And voila, you can download radio programmes again!
  310. Tigerite

    Wrote at 2011-07-28 11:23 UTC using Firefox 4.0.7 on Windows 7:

    I wonder if this could be useful in getting this excellent software working again:
  311. John Rose

    Wrote at 2011-07-29 06:55 UTC using Firefox 3.6.18 on Linux:

    For those using Ubuntu (and other Debian based distros), I’ve written a GUI for get_iplayer, called iRecorder. Rather than using the BBC’s website to find a programme’s URL, you use the GUI to directly search for your programme using the criteria of TV/Radio and any of Channel & whole/part of Programme Title to narrow it down before requesting recording of the programme.

    It can be downloaded from:

    get_iplayer can be downloaded from (if you don’t want to use the Ubuntu/Debian repository version):

    It is theoretically possible to run iRecorder from Windows: if I remember correctly you have to run it under Freenix.
  312. John Rose

    Wrote at 2011-07-29 10:26 UTC using Firefox 3.6.18 on Linux:

    I am silly! I’ve posted URLs as locations on my laptop. iRecorder’s is:

    get_iplayer’s is:
  313. Richard

    Wrote at 2011-08-06 06:10 UTC using Firefox 5.0 on Windows 7:

    I had been wondering for months why my iPlayer Downloader wasn’t working so I thought I’d check out the website. This is such a shame. I’d sung the praises of this fantastic tool to others a lot. Just pop the reference code of the programme into the dialog box and… bam! What could be simpler?
    The fact that iPlayer only supports sideloads for certain mobile devices means that I get less than others for my license fee. The BBC should open up to people such as Paul who are only trying make things fairer!

    Thanks for trying Paul!
  314. Peter

    Wrote at 2011-08-28 18:38 UTC using Firefox 6.0 on Windows 7:

    I’m not an expert, but maybe you could do it the way that CopyTrans Manager works?
  315. John

    Wrote at 2011-09-01 12:15 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Windows 7:

    I still don’t get why you can’t tweak it so it downloads the Wii iplayer feed. They don’t use Flash
  316. Dr. Flay

    Wrote at 2012-01-25 21:28 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Windows Vista:

    I have been using HiDownload for several years.
    It rips the stream from the player instead of getting the download version, using “packet sniffing”.
    The streams do not have DRM.

    You will have to rename the DLed files but that’s no problem.
  317. soupdragon

    Wrote at 2012-08-29 13:27 UTC using Opera 9.80 on Windows XP:

    Just to add to those using the free get_iplayer PVR on Windows, the option to download in HD isn’t available by default you have to add the options “flashhd,flashvhigh,” to the “Recording Modes” option on the “Recording” tab. The “Save as Default” button doesn’t seem to do anything, maybe the Linux version is different?
  318. Sam

    Wrote at 2012-12-26 02:57 UTC using Chrome 23.0.1271.97 on Windows 7:

    hey, if you guys just need it because of the silly bbc site’s proper download, there is a version you can get from brothersoft ( I had a problem when it kept asking me to download adobe air when I already have it on the iplayer site)—>

    Hope this helps :)

    (thanks for trying with your software Paul :) )
  319. Brian Williams

    Wrote at 2013-01-13 23:31 UTC using Firefox 16.0 on Windows 7:

    I wouldn’t bother if I were you. The BBC has become nothing more than a propaganda machine for cultural marxism. I stopped listening to it years ago.
  320. Davis S

    Wrote at 2013-07-02 22:07 UTC using Firefox 21.0 on Windows 7:

    I would avoid brothersoft for downloads if you can as you often get malware downloaded at the same time as the software.

    The BBC have now blocked the RadioDownloader, it still works for podcasts but not for streamed audio.

    Do they not actually want people to listen to their programmes?
  321. Mr Cherry

    Wrote at 2013-07-24 08:35 UTC using Internet Explorer 9.0 on Windows 7:

    Hi everyone,

    Download ‘VSO Downloader’ from a torrent website and use it to download any live streaming vidoes, inlcuding iPlayer ones without DRM restriction.

    If you’re living outside the UK download the proxy software from the website given below

    These two together work like charm (tried on 23 JULY 2013).

    Good luck :)
  322. Mr Cherry

    Wrote at 2013-07-24 08:39 UTC using Internet Explorer 9.0 on Windows 7:

    Sorry forgot to mention…the proxy software is used to access BBC website, setting your IP address to a UK IP address temporarily.